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Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« on: Thursday 18 July 19 07:32 BST (UK) »
I am looking for ancesters for Jennie Richmond Married John William Martin in Newport Glamorgan Wales in 1933 son Walford Royston Martin Born 1935, John married again in 1938.
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Re: Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 July 19 07:35 BST (UK) »
Have you got the marriage certificate for her father's name, and do you know her approximate age?

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Re: Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 July 19 07:48 BST (UK) »
I can see 5 births for Jennie Richmond from 1890 to 1917 - none in Wales.

The second marriage of John W Martin was not in Wales in 1938 (or I cannot see it).

Was he widowed on his second marriage?

Walford died in 2009 - did he stay with his mother or father?

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Re: Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 July 19 19:50 BST (UK) »
From information supplied from woolweaver as to the second marriage, i.e. bride's name and place, it was in 1937, though that does not help, really.

Marriages December quarter 1937   
 Elizabeth A Hawkins  Caerleon  11a  610
 John W Martin  Caerleon  11a  610


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Re: Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 July 19 23:14 BST (UK) »
Walford is on the 1939 register with John D Martin and Elizabeth A Martin.  Close inspection of the original suggests that the D should be a W.

John's birth date is 24 January 1907.  His occupation is Machine attendant coke ovens.

Walford's birth date has been written as 17 Dec 1934 and someone has added above it 17 Dec 35 (KMS).

There are three possible births for John in the March quarter of 1907:-

MARTIN, JOHN  WILLIAM     WALKER 
GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 462

MARTIN, JOHN  WILLIAM     GOODMAN
 GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 131
   
MARTIN, JOHN  WILLIAM     FOX
GRO Reference: 1907  M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE  Volume 06C  Page 216

So obtaining one of the marriage certificates will be the only way to check father's name.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 August 19 22:22 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Although Ancestry has transcribed John's first marriage as to Jennie RICHMOND the GRO image shows that her name is Jessie RICHMOND (there is a Jennie above her in the list so it seems to be a mistranscription).

I found this death,

Jessie MARTIN    Sept Q 1937    Glamorganshire    11a  710
Age:  28

which could explain how John remarried later the same year.


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Daisy

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Re: Jennie Richmond married to john William Martin 1933
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 August 19 22:44 BST (UK) »
First marriage:-

Marriages Sep 1933 
Jones    Mary J    Powell    Newport M    11a   567    
>>Martin    John W    Richmond    Newport M.    11a   567    
Powell    Derrick M    Jones    Newport M    11a   567    
>>Richmond    Jessie    Martin    Newport M.    11a   567

Obtaining the marriage certificate will give you further information re fathers etc.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire