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Orse. - latin?
« on: Tuesday 23 July 19 09:30 BST (UK) »
I had seen this before, and assumed it meant maiden name, but it appears to mean, 'alternatively', it can be in relation to initials, first or last name, the alternative is then given after 'orse.'. I assume it's an abbreviation of the latin, but no idea what word?


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Re: Orse. - latin?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 July 19 09:45 BST (UK) »
It does mean alternative,perhaps the spelling Matthew or Matthews.?
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Re: Orse. - latin?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 July 19 09:48 BST (UK) »
It does mean alternative,perhaps the spelling Matthew or Matthews.?
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Yes, in the first one Marginson is given as the alternative name to Evans, but any idea what latin word orse. is an abbreviation of  :)?

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Re: Orse. - latin?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 July 19 09:52 BST (UK) »
Means "Otherwise" - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orse - so yes, as per previous responses an alternative.

Etymology
Latin [Term?]
Adverb
orse (not comparable)
    (law, Britain) otherwise.
Adjective
orse (not comparable)
    (law, Britain) otherwise.

Christine.
AUSTRALIA: Farrelly, Boland, Harte
IRELAND:  Boland (Tipp), Dempsey (Cavan), Farrelly (Meath), Guerin & Harte (Clare), McGivern & McKenna (Monaghan), Traynor
SCOTLAND:  Dempsey (Edin), Welsh (Forfar,Arbroath,Kirriemuir,Kincardine), Milne (Forfar,Dundee), Barron, Bisset (Montrose)


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Re: Orse. - latin?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 July 19 09:53 BST (UK) »
Otherwise?
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Re: Orse. - latin?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 July 19 10:10 BST (UK) »
Means "Otherwise" - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orse - so yes, as per previous responses an alternative.

Etymology
Latin [Term?]
Adverb
orse (not comparable)
    (law, Britain) otherwise.
Adjective
orse (not comparable)
    (law, Britain) otherwise.

Christine.
Excellent thanks, not latin at all ;D. It is in 'A Dictionary of Abbreviations: With Especial Attention to War-Time Abbreviations', By Eric Partridge, 1942, but doesn't seem to be in the current Oxford Dictionary of Abbreviations, so is perhaps now out of use?

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Re: Orse. - latin?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 September 20 17:48 BST (UK) »
The term "ors" or "orse" was commonly used in earlier centuries (and can still be used in legal documents today) to indicate a woman's MAIDEN NAME.

In Irish and British marriages of the 1700s-1800s, for instance, you may see a bride's name written this way:  "Jane Bell ors Dickson." This means that her surname at this marriage is Bell, but she was born a Dickson. She is Jane Bell, born Dickson or nee Dickson or "otherwise" Dickson. A fact that can be derived from the antiquated term "ors" is that Jane had a previous marriage to a Bell husband. It's a very helpful Latin term to find in your genealogical research!

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