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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 02 January 21 10:35 GMT (UK) »
.The couple are definitely my direct descendants but I am stumped on Williams parents Thomas and Ann Hart.


How do you know that Thomas and Ann are the parents of William?

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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 02 January 21 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Correction it is Dudley Parish Worcestershire.

Looking at the records for Dudley : St Thomas :  Worcestershire on freereg for the name Hart.
There was one baptism in 1670 and one in 1795, then more regular events from 1812

The records on Family Search are similar. Records start later on FindMyPast.  Ancestry thinks Dudley is in Staffordshire.

At the time of their marriage they were both about 18, I can only imagine that they left their families to find accommodation in Dudley and returned to Walsall: St Matthew about 7 miles away to get married, it just sounds a little strange for that period of time.

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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 02 January 21 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Col
These are the record from Freereg.

County   Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information)   Walsall
Church name (Links to more information)   St Matthew
Baptism date   31 Mar 1755
Person forename   William
Person sex   M
Father forename   Thomas
Mother forename   Ann
Father surname   HART
Transcribed by   Gareth Pritchard
File line number   2410

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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #48 on: Monday 04 January 21 08:53 GMT (UK) »
I thought you maybe interest in this segment I found and doesn’t it all sound familiar...

In 1637 an order of the constable of Walsall Borough was made to guard entrances to town & prevent the admission of strangers without a certificate as a precaution against PLAGUE.


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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 05 January 21 21:04 GMT (UK) »
 Hi Col
Thank you for all your help, it just maybe a case of hoping more records become available in the future.
Stay safe and well.🙂

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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 11:25 GMT (UK) »
No burials in Walsall for Thomas & Ann but they were recorded in the period. Some interesting burials there, including Sarah, William & others, all on freereg.

Sarah HART   Age 69 (1754)   Burial 08 Jan 1823   Abode New St.   Walsall : St Matthew :

No baptism for Emma but William & Elizabeth had a Sarah baptised in 1821, abode New St.

William may have married Sarah WARDELL 1892 Handsworth.

Emma HART   Age 13 months   Burial 11 Jun 1823   Abode New St.   Walsall : St Matthew


William HART   Age 73 (1752)   Burial 09 Oct 1825   Abode Park St   Walsall : St Matthew


Children of James & Harriett, married 1813, West Bromwich. Burials below.  All under 4, all at Park St.

James HART & John HART (Twins) 17 Dec 1820, Ann HART 28 Dec 1823, William HART13 Jul 1825.

No baptism for Julia but assume child of above.
Julia HART   4 months   Burial 09 Aug 1825   Abode Park St.   Walsall: St Matthew

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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Just looking at the early part of your post, I noticed that Trish had already mentioned the births

SARAH Hart 08 Jan 1823 age 69 (1754), abode New Street
WILLIAM Hart 09 Oct 1825 age 73 (1752), abode New Street

I must have got the abode crossed with the 10 month old William who was buried 13 Jul 1825

William HART   Age 73    Burial 9 Oct 1825   Abode New St.   Walsall : St Matthew.

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Re: Joseph Hart Born 1787 Walsall Staffordshire
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 06 January 21 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Are there any sites that would give me information to confirm Williams occupation?
Thank you
Jen