Author Topic: Selina Taylor Dowlais / Merthyr Ironworker's child born in France  (Read 1593 times)

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Re: Selina Taylor Dowlais / Merthyr Ironworker's child born in France
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 August 19 15:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks trish1120. Selina did have a brother who was born in 1838 according to the 1851 census although its shown as born in Llanwenarth, but that would come under Abergavenny, wouldn't it?


Also Harries and Harris seems to be an ongoing recordong error as does Davies and Davis.
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Re: Selina Taylor Dowlais / Merthyr Ironworker's child born in France
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 August 19 15:55 BST (UK) »
Yes from the Census it does come under Abergavenny :)
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Re: Selina Taylor Dowlais / Merthyr Ironworker's child born in France
« Reply #11 on: Friday 02 August 19 13:01 BST (UK) »
Looking at the census entry which seems to read Rasville, I think it actually says Hasville too, with a slightly odd letter H. Been wondering whether Hasville might have been Decazeville, a commune in the Aveyron department in the Occitanie region in Southern France which was a centre of iron working. See this reference online in 'An Economic History of Modern France' by Francois Caron:

"However, in the 1820s there arose some big companies, usually societies anonymes, which tried to adopt all the English innovations, such as coke smelting, puddling, and rolling, at the same time (Terrenoire, Le Creusot, Alais, and Decazeville)." 

Another reference in 'Mastering Iron:  The Struggle to Modernize an American Industry, 1800-1868 by Anne Kelly Knowles:

"At Decazeville and the other company towns built by Cabrol's firm, virtually all of the engineers, puddlers, heaters, rollers, and polishers during the early years of production were immigrants from Wales.  Some went home after a few years or emigrated to the United States.  Others married French women and settled in as permanent residents."

This is only a hunch but might still be worth following up.  Maybe someone could advise you on birth records for that area of France?  Perhaps consider getting this post moved to the Europe board?

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Re: Selina Taylor Dowlais / Merthyr Ironworker's child born in France
« Reply #12 on: Friday 02 August 19 13:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Drosybont. I will certainly look in to that, it seems like the most promising lead so far! 👍
From South Wales: Williams / Taylor / Davies / Harries / Rosser

From Scotland: Hay / Finlay / Ferguson / Campbell / Reid and many others

From Devon: Rugg / Rugge / Quantick / Leaman and many others

From Yorkshire: Rudd /Grange / Grainge / Dobson / Hewison / Robson / Swales / Swailes and many others

From London and Kent: Brown