Vera Labouchere Neave

[JJen]

Regarding Reuben this could be worth a look -

1871 -

George Tinsley   65
Elizabeth Tinsley   65
Ellen Tinsley   20
Reuben S Tinsley   7/12 b. Clawson Leicestershire (place of birth ties in with 1901 census)
RG10 Piece 3296 Folio 65 Page 16, Clawson Leicestershire

11 July 1872 Ellen Tinsley married Walter Neve (butcher) both living in Long Clawson, Leicestershire.

JJ

Added - Have found that you have the above info on a previous post 

[softly softly]

JJen, Thank you for doing this. As you said I had that info from a previous post that's why I was very specific in my request with this post.

Regards

John

[aghadowey]

Son born 1914 in England- transcript gives mother as "Sara Zabouchera." Church of England/Ireland baptisms usually don't give mother's maiden name?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP43-QHLG

1911 says born Barrow but French nationality which is strange (women usually acquired husband's citizenship upon marriage). Perhaps she was born in England but her father was French? Booth may have been the name of mother's partner. Have you tried searching for birth under mother's maiden name?

[Ladyhawk]

Son born 1914 in England- transcript gives mother as "Sara Zabouchera." Church of England/Ireland baptisms usually don't give mother's maiden name?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP43-QHLG

Great find

Robert Ronaleyn Ernest Scott

Birth date   24 Nov 1914
Baptism date   27 Dec 1914
Baptism place   Melton Mowbray
Denomination   Anglican
Father    Ronalyn
Mother Sara Zabouchera
Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland
Archive reference   DG36/12 Page   141
Record set   Leicestershire Baptisms

Looking at the original on F M P mother’s name Vera Labouchere

[aghadowey]

IF she was Vera Booth in 1891 (father John Booth), Vera Neave in 1901 and married 1909 as Vera Neave with father John Neave... perhaps born Parsons (mother's maiden name) with father (or mother's partner) John Booth. Then, by 1901 mother with Ruben Neave so she was known by Neave. When she went to marry in 1909 her surname was Neave and gave father's name as John L. but either Neave assumed to be her surname or she gave than so as to not appear illegitimate.

Another idea- Labouchere perhaps Anglicised to Booth, thus John Labouchere became John L. Booth.

[softly softly]

Thank you. Firstly I have big reservations about Lena Parsons being a PARSONS when she married Reuben in 1893. Possibly need to purchase marriage cert to see who she names as father on that. Lena is known about from 1901 onwards so no research needed, but her past is a mystery. Robert's birth in 1914 is a bonus, Reuben the father died in 1914 in Melton Mowbray so that ties in nicely. This is some chase!!

John

[Ladyhawk]

Firstly I have big reservations about Lena Parsons being a PARSONS when she married Reuben in 1893.

Possibly need to purchase marriage cert to see who she names as father on that.

A good idea - hopefully it will show Lena's father's name, please come back and let us know the details if you do 

[aghadowey]

I'd been thinking about this whole problem tracing this family last night and did a bit more searching. Not finished yet but a few things-

Lena Parson's birthplace would seem to be given as Seaforde, Co. Down.
Daughter Sheila Alice Neave (searched for any births for a girl Sheila in Belfast or Clonmel around the right period without success) born 1 Sept.1906 (SSDI), 1930 census says born Irish Free State & Clonmel in 1928 record Ladyhawk found.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHF-NSF?i=61&cc=1810731&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AX7M2-2TD (1930 census)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816340.9 (1928)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V37B-T4Q (SSDI)
Clonmel would fit with Irish Free State but Belfast doesn't.

Though it would be worth checking Lancashire Parish records for Vera born Barrow but from what I can see those records are not on the site. Perhaps someone who known Lancashire records better will have another source.
Barrow registers not listed https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

[softly softly]

Hi, A big thank you to all who have contributed to this post and the one on the Leicestershire board. It has been very fruitful if not answering ALL questions. I know Vera's birth date, found her on all available census. When she married, who she married, children, and her death--but her birth eludes-.Her birth cert if there is one might or might not record who her father is/was. So thanks again for all your help.

John