Horan Family

[Maiden Stone]

I wouldn't have a clue where to start for that ,
I have found this
Timothy Horan, Sr
BIRTH   1750
County Cork, Ireland
DEATH   unknown
Portsea, Portsmouth Unitary Authority, Hampshire, England
BURIAL   Unknown
MEMORIAL ID   154760108 · View Source

This is the information on "Find a Grave" website.  https://findagrave.com

I'm puzzled as to why it says "unknown" for death and burial yet has Portsea, Portsmouth under "Death". Does it mean that he died in Portsea, year unknown or that  he was buried in an unknown site in Portsea, year unknown, or both, or neither? Could it mean that his name was included on Timothy junior's tombstone?
Extra information on Find a Grave under Timothy Horan (1750):
"Captain of a vessel that traded between Cork and Portsmouth." 

[Maiden Stone]

More from Find a Grave.  https://www.findagrave.com
Mary Hannah Evans (1786-1858), wife of Timothy Horan. The photograph attached to her may be a page from a family bible. Precise timings of births of children to the minute.
At least 3 sons made their livings from the sea. Edmund was mariner and policeman. He was in Rio de Janeiro in 1839; his picture is an autographed book to a niece.  Thomas was a mariner.  Joseph was a shipowner and shipbroker.  George joined the East India company and was killed with his wife and 2 children in the Sepoy Mutiny 1857.

Horan memorial pages maintained by a person with the username "sandhills".

[SsGn]

Hello Maiden Stone, Sorry I have only just seen all this no notification for it.
Yes i believe they all worked at sea. Timothy senior being captain at one stage.
More from Find a Grave.  https://www.findagrave.com
Mary Hannah Evans (1786-1858), wife of Timothy Horan. The photograph attached to her may be a page from a family bible. Precise timings of births of children to the minute.
At least 3 sons made their livings from the sea. Edmund was mariner and policeman. He was in Rio de Janeiro in 1839; his picture is an autographed book to a niece.  Thomas was a mariner.  Joseph was a shipowner and shipbroker.  George joined the East India company and was killed with his wife and 2 children in the Sepoy Mutiny 1857.Where did you find this please?
Also today saw some one on Ancestry has a John Horan born in Ireland 1812 sone of Timothy and Hannah. Does anyone have any information on this please?

[Maiden Stone]

Replies 46 & 47. The information is on Find a Grave.  https://findagrave.com
I put in surname Horan and place Hampshire. Then clicked on each name in the family and found information about some of them.
The page with dates and times of births of children of Timothy & Mary Ellen doesn't state place of birth.
According to information on Find a Grave, John was born in England. Have you found baptisms of all the children?
As Timothy senior was a sailor he may have met and married his wife anywhere.
Newspapers which covered port towns contained lists of arrivals and departures of ships, cargoes, captains and destination.
Have you looked for wills?

[SsGn]

 ANY UPDATES ON TIMOTHY HORAN AND CATHERINE CAHILL?
I have had a DNA  match with two people who are descendants of Horans in Castleisland.
Nobody has mentioned this place on Ancestry everyone has said Rosscarberry still,
I really think he just lived there at the time and sailed from there.

[SsGn]

Evening all !! Back to this Horan family.
Where can I find a copy of the marriage of Timothy Horan,Horn,Horne to Hannah Evans which would include the occupation of both fathers.Portsea 4th September 1808?
TIA

[heywood]

Here is a transcript of the marriage
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NX6-M87C

It looks as though you can access the record through Find My Past.


If you are near a Family Search centre/library, you may also be able to see the record there
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLYW-5MM7

The record will not give any parent details though

[heywood]

Hampshire Allegations for Marriage Licences Vol 1 (ancestry)

Timothy Horne of Portsmouth, Tailor, 21 yrs and Hannah Evans, 21 yrs of Portsea
at P (Portsmouth) 4 Sept 1808.

[SsGn]

Thank you all, No luck with the occupation apart from the younger of the Timothy's being a tailor and not a sailor. I am now wondering if the first Timothy Horan was actually the one baptised in London in 1841 and he may have married twice Catherine Cahill then Rose Maher. I cannot find a death for Catherine anywhere in England or Ireland. I have read on an Ancestry tree that the name Cahill may have been anglinised to Charles, not sure about that,Catherine Bastable (Cahill) Charles has also been mentioned as a possibility. I am just totaly confused by this family. But I am pretty sure there is a connection with Castleisland somewhere.