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Offline Lincor

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Bates Family
« on: Wednesday 07 August 19 17:28 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on my great great grandfather Henry Bates, who married Lucy Ann Bush.
They had a son Thomas Henry Bates. Trying to find any other children or records for this family.

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Re: Bates Family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 August 19 17:33 BST (UK) »
Link to post requesting information on the son Thomas Henry to avoid duplication
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=816877.
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Re: Bates Family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 August 19 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can you always  include dates of events please to give us an idea of a timescale.

The marriage to Lucy Ann Bush was 1864 so do you have a copy of the marriage cert showing his fathers name and occupation?

The marriage was in Edmonton but you have posted on the Leics board - is there a connection?

You can use the GRO search facility to find Bates births with mothers maiden name Bush
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

You can also look for them on the censuses from 1871 which are free  on www.familysearch.org
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Bates Family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 August 19 18:51 BST (UK) »
Marriage 4.7.1864  Chapelry of St Michael Highgate

Henry Bates 22 labourer  father James also a labourer
Lucy Ann Bush 24 father Thomas Bush deceased occ coach builder

Both were single

You need to check the 1851 census to see if Henry is with parents
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Re: Bates Family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 August 19 07:29 BST (UK) »
Henry Bates 25 and Wife Lucy 33 and son Thomas Hy  Bates age 5 born Kentish Town are in Hinkley Leicester 1871 census.

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Re: Bates Family
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 August 19 10:04 BST (UK) »
Possible baptism for Henry:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4M-9MF8

Possible birth reg for Henry:

BATES, HENRY        mothers maiden name BILLSON     
GRO Reference: 1841  D Quarter in HINCKLEY  Volume 15  Page 59
 

1851 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGFK-S7X

Possible birth reg for Mary Ann:

BATES, MARY  ANN      Mothers maiden name BILLSON     
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 129


Marriages Mar 1841 
BATES    James        Leicester    15   94   
BILLSON    Harriet         Leicester    15   94   

link to marriage details:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP4W-JTTV 


1861 census for James and family (Henry not at home)
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59037caae9379091b1f460af/mary-a-bates-1861-leicestershire-burbage-1850-?locale=en

1871 census already given above

1881 census??
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27J-9D5Q


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Re: Bates Family
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 August 19 12:00 BST (UK) »
Is this the 1881 census for Lucy and son Thomas Henry?:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Z-8K2Q

possible 1881 census (already posted before) for Henry Bates (husband of Lucy, father of Thomas Henry):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27J-9D5Q

If this is her husband Henry in the 1881 census it looks like she lied about being a widow

Possibilities for Lucy:
1891 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q6WQ-NW2

Death:
Deaths Mar 1893   
Bates    Lucy Ann    52    Hendon    3a   137