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Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« on: Friday 09 August 19 18:22 BST (UK) »
I am looking for the death of Mary Ann Norris b1875 bap 1877 Brighton. Mother Ellen Norris formerly Liddle nee Rowland, father William.
I track her to the 1891 census with her parents, she is 16.
Her mother is a widow in 1911, it states 4 children born ,none left alive.
I am also interested in the whereabouts and death record of her son by her first marriage Robert William Liddle b 1862 Brighton.
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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 August 19 23:26 BST (UK) »
Presuming you have checked freebmd and not found a death - have you looked for a marriage for Mary Ann after 1891 as she may have died under a different name?

What is the last census you have found William on - no info in your post.

Have you looked on freebmd for a death/marriage for him?

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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 August 19 23:43 BST (UK) »
Is mother Ellen in Southwark in 1901?
Helen Norris, 57, born Sussex Brighton
Piece 379 folio 45 page 29

If so, could Mary Ann have married and/or died in London?
Looking at one possibility
Mary Ann Norris to James William Addison at Camberwell St George in 1899.

1901 has a Mary Addison, 24, married to James, also 24, living in Surbiton. Both born in Brighton (so I guess it doesn't matter quite so much if Helen in Southwark is the wrong lady!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9XJ-SN1

A birth of a Sydney James Addison, mother Norris, in Steyning in Sep 1903
And Alfred William Addison, mother Norris, in Lambeth in March 1905

In the 1911 free index there is a James Addison, 33, apparently widowed, living in Brighton. And Sydney and Alfred there too, slightly odd relationships.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BY-62V

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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 August 19 23:52 BST (UK) »
Baptism of Alfred William Addison at St Anselm's, Kennington Cross, in 1905, is on ancestry.
Parents James William + Mary Ann.


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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 August 19 18:18 BST (UK) »
Fuller marriage details
St Georges Camberwell
30 July 1899
James William Addison 22 Bachelor shop assistant 285 Albany Rd father James Addison occ Plumber
Mary Ann Norris 22 Spinster 49 Harding St father William Norris occ Bricklayer
witnesses F Slakes & W Parr??? (signatures difficult to read

there is this death reg Mary Ann Addison age 31  Sept qtr 1908 Shoreditch reg dist

Burial Mary Ann Addison
Burial 19 Aug 1908 Newham London

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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 August 19 22:14 BST (UK) »
You clever people, thanks so much.
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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 August 19 22:29 BST (UK) »
Now to look for Robert William Liddle

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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 August 19 13:17 BST (UK) »
I haven’t found him yet 😐
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Re: Mary Ann Norris/Robert Liddle
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 August 19 13:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry Nooshie, I've looked all over the place and can't get him at all.
Could he have used the Norris name?

I'm not even sure that his birth was registered! You have him in 1871, and his baptism at St Nicholas, Brighton, 5 October 1862, as Liddell. Father a Baker?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWYS-MRW?i=102&cat=214220