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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 12:26 BST (UK) »
Yes it is the same as the Digger Pioneer Index Victoria 1836-1888 except for the "Spouse Richardson Julian Harman"  (what's this??) The Vic BMD website is down AGAIN.. its been pretty unreliable since they fiddled with it.

Perhaps she died soon after arrival in Melbourne: the cemetery in Carlton is very close to the Melbourne hospital in the city: Unfortunately the index of patients at this hospital only goes to 1880.
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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 August 19 08:46 BST (UK) »
Looks like the wife of Julian Harman RICHARDSON was Elizabeth Ann WILBEE/WILBY

12 months after the death of Julian Harman RICHARDSON, who died in 1922, a daughter named Lily placed an in Memoriam about him and also. ..."my mother who died at the early age of 27 .....dau of Rev WILBY."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/206245701

Here is he death of a son of the couple in Victoria

Ernest Walter RICHARDSON
Age 87
At Chel, Victoria
Father's name    Harma Julian
Mother's name    Elizabeth Ann WILBEE
Year 1964
Reg 19051

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It appears some children were born in NZ to Julian and this Elizabeth
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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 August 19 09:18 BST (UK) »
Is it possible your Elizabeth returned to her relatives place at Barnawartha near Wodonga?

Thomas Wilkinson RICHARDSON's obituary tells us that he was there when he first returned to Australia.

1890 mention of Elizabeth Ann RICHARDSON on the Barnawartha property
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/254478413

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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 August 19 12:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your relplies.
I have looked through the Trove Newspapers and the Obituary of her brother mentions Mary Elizabeth. Not Elizabeth Ann. :'(
Have quite a lot of info about her brothers as they have been quite well researched.

I have looked at Julian Harman Richardson. His wife Elizabeth Ann Twigger Willbe (what a name!) died in NZ in 1880.

He married Sarah Meredith in Victoria Australia in 1897

So it looks like he could have married another Elizabeth Ann, between the two, who died in Victoria in 1883.
But can't find a marriage - am I missing it? Can anyone else? Wonder if it could have been near Wodonga where her brother was.

Sounds like a bit of a charmer with the young women.

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CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey


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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 August 19 17:12 BST (UK) »
Even more confused now.
On looking at a Family Tree on a very well known web site I have another marriage for Julian Harman Francis Richardson - to Annie Lascelles  16 Oct 1882
St Pauls, Invercargill, New Zealand.

Then a child to a Matilda Grace Peters.

Looking at the Public Trees he's had quite a travelling and controversial life.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 August 19 00:06 BST (UK) »
You have said you have your Elizabeth in 1881 in England. Census.
The Elizabeth who was wife of Julian was married to him in 1872 in NZ and had children there.

Yours was born in 1862, she would not be marrying in 1872

Thank you for your relplies.
I have looked through the Trove Newspapers and the Obituary of her brother mentions Mary Elizabeth. Not Elizabeth Ann. :'(
 
The link I posted above was not to Thomas's obituary

Here it is again. 1890
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/254478413


 
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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 August 19 01:18 BST (UK) »
Can you expand on this please -

"......a family note which says "Lizzie left for Australia 24 May 1884"...."

Do you have this note....have you seen it........is this Lizzie a RICHARDSON?

Aunt Barbara Thwaytes would seem to be well-off. Does Aunt Barbara leave a Will?. Elizabeth Ann RICHARDSON would be like a daughter to her, and Elizabeth might be a beneficiary, even if only for
mementos.......photographs, jewellery etc.   Elizabeth Ann might be identified by (married) name, and location.

Elizabeth Ann RICHARDSON in Australia  (NSW?...VIC?) might reasonably name a daughter Barbara, after dear aunt who raised her. 

To the extent that BDM databases will allow.....look for birth /death of Barbara with mother Elizabeth. Barbara is a less common name at late 19th early 20th century.

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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 August 19 09:48 BST (UK) »
There is probate of a will of a Henry RICHARDSON of North Barnawartha.    This is possibly the Uncle who Thomas stayed with when he returned from England..   http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article88551854.   It says that the Melbourne correspondent reported this, implying that it happened in Victoria, but I can't find it on prov.

The probate could be in NSW archives but doesn't appear on online index - but there is a gap  in these between c1890 and c1927 so I will check the microfiche the next time I am at NSW archives.  If it there I will photograph it for you.

Death of Henry Richardson of N Barnawartha in Melbourne in 1888.http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article234848609

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adding : Yes I realise that if Uncle Henry died in 1888 then it is too early to be directly useful as Sue has spotted Elizabeth Anne Richardson on Barnawartha property in 1890.  But it may give some clues to follow up.
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Re: Elizabeth Anne Richardson bAdelong Australia
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 18 August 19 08:38 BST (UK) »
I think I was not correct in that sighting.
The author of the article uses the names Mary Anne RICHARDSON and Mary Elizabeth RICHARDSON.
I think the mother was in fact Mary Jane RICHARDSON.(the mother?) of Mary Elizabeth RICHARDSON, her daughter.
Altogether too many Elizabeths, Marys and Anns ;D
So, no advancement there.
Sue
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