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Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« on: Thursday 15 August 19 21:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Am trying to find some info on my great-grandmother's father & step-father.

My great-grandmother is Marjorie Wolfe (26/5/1900 - 17/2/1992) & her mother is Edith Lill.  Unfortunately I don't know much about her father, Theodore E Wolfe & her step father, John Ames (who ended up adopting Marjorie).

Any help much appreciated.

Oli

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 August 19 21:58 BST (UK) »
do you have any more details about where she was born and where she died? Have you found her on any censuses, if so where?

Also: Same questions for her mother.

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:07 BST (UK) »
My great-grandmother, Marjorie, was born & died in the Chicago area & her mother was similar, born & died in the Cook County area of Illinois.

Not entirely sure on details for her father or step/adoptive father.

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:10 BST (UK) »
for background:
1880 Lill Family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXJH-33T
 
1910, Ward 25 Chicago
George Lill, 64, born England, arrived 1849, merchant, coal company
Rebecca Lill, 63, born Illinois
Edith L Wolfe, 37, divorced, b Illinois, daughter of head, 1 child, 1 alive, own income
Marjorie H Wolfe, 9, born Illinois, parents also
 

familysearch tree for Edith
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/vitals/9DQK-K2G

for Theodore
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/vitals/L6RN-6SH

I just now found Theodore's "tree" - not much on it. still looking. It says he died 3 March 1946 in Chicago, but no source.

Try familysearch for the American records, or if you have ancestry World sub, then there.


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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:15 BST (UK) »
from the same tree, for Dr John Ames. not much:

Dr John G Ames
b 1853, where?
d 28 July 1926, Tulsa, Oklahoma
no sources

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/vitals/LKF1-9S4

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:24 BST (UK) »

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:25 BST (UK) »

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1900, Ward 25, Chicago
Theodore and Edith with her parents
Theodore b Jan 1873, Illinois, parents in Germany


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSQ6-YFM


1910 Chicago
Theodore E Wolfe, lodger, divorced, born in Illinois, parents in Germany

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKZ8-3JW

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This could be his death, the birthplace agree. But better to find him first with parents with these names, or the marriage record with Edith.

Deaths
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b 27 May 1873, Chicago
d 3 Mar 1946, at 6330 Ellis Ave, Chicago, widowed, a salesman, parents: John Wolfe, and __ Weinheimer, both born in Germany. spouse: Elizabeth. informant: Bessie E Mcginty

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2M8-NPMQ

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 August 19 23:20 BST (UK) »
But, there were two men named Theodore Wolfe/Wolff in Chicago in 1910. The man who died in 1946 could be this man, not the one who was divorced, who was presumably Edith's ex husband.

1910 Ward 20, Chicago

Theodore Wolff, 37, born in Illinois, parents in Germany
Elizabeth Wolff, 39, born in England
Kate Wolff, 68, mother, born in Germany

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKZH-T7B

Marriage of that Thomas and Elizabeth, 21 Sep 1902, in Michigan. She says she had been married before, but he hadn't.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC66-H95

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Re: Theodore Wolfe / John Ames
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 August 19 15:58 BST (UK) »
Here's what I found on John G Ames. Mostly at ancestry, but the records should all be at familysearch as well, censuses and Massachusetts marriages. . I included the ancestry links in case you have it. It was easier for me than switching back and forth between the sites to find the free link.

The Washington State records are at https://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Search for free.

I think this all fits together, you will have to sort through it yourself to be sure. Note that the newspaper obit said his body was sent to Baltimore after the service. I don't know why he died in Tulsa or why Mr Lill said "go back to Oklahoma" --  maybe family there? I didn't look.

1860 Baltimore
Angenet Ames, 35
Emerson Ames, 34
John Ames, 7, born in Baltimore
other children, others in household

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=53956700&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz1263&_phstart=successSource

1870 Baltimore, same people, c 10 years older

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=23188173&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz1263&_phstart=successSource

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John G Ames
Married 1st 23 December 1874, Susan G Wilson, him: parents Emerson and Angeanette, born in Baltimore, residing somewhere in Texas, occupation: cattle dealer, his first marriage.

her parents George H [Wilson] and Ann M
Marriage took place in St Louis, Missouri, but was also registered in Marblehead Massachusetts, the residence of the bride.

[Massachusetts did that. Still might. The marriage was registered where it happened and in the home town of the other party as well]

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2511&h=5627991&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz1263&_phstart=successSource

in Missouri Marriage Records, faded can't read a lot of it

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1171&h=510179468&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=5062

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Married 2nd Brookline Massachusetts, 16 October 1884, to Elizabeth Wilson, his parents: Emerson [Ames] and Angeneet Gregory, him born in Baltimore.  he says it is his 1st marriage. her parents: George H [Wilson] and Ann Candler

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=2511&h=3816552&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz1263&_phstart=successSource

Elizabeth was the twin sister of his first wife Susan. they are registered following each other on the Marblehead, Massachusetts births.

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5062&h=7023715&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=fTz1270&_phstart=successSource

No sign of Susan's death at ancestry.com. Most of the trees have her and Elizabeth combined as one, or ignore Susan completely.

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1900 Ward 25 Chicago
at 1243 Wrightwood Avenue

John Ames, b April 1853, Maryland, physician and surgeon, own account
Elizabeth, b Feb 1853, Massachusetts, 3 children 3 alive
Howard N, 24
Albert W, 14
J Candler Ames, 11
Mary Richards, 22, servant

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSQD-NY8

1897 Chicago Directory
John G Ames, physician, 434 Lincoln Avenue, house at Seminary Place

1904 Chicago Directory, list of physicians
John G Ames, 1404 Wrightwood av

1906 Chicago Directory, list of physicians
John G Ames, 1404 Wrightwood av

1911 Chicago Directory, list of physicians
John G Ames, 4601 Evanston Avenue

1914 Chicago Directory, list of physicians
John G Ames, 1002 Wilson Avenue

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1910 Ward 25 Chicago
at 3416 Elaine Place

Elizabeth Ames, 57, born in Massachusetts, married
Albert W Ames, 24,

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=7884&h=4985793&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=6061

1920
Elizabeth in Seattle, widowed, in Albert W's household

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=6061&h=13545052&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7602

Elizabeth's death in Washington State
30 July 1941, parents George Henry Wilson and Ann Mosely

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=60229&h=1989017&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7602


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Directory of Deceased Physicians,
graduated U Maryland School of Medicine, Baltimore, 1881.
type: allopath
practice: Chicago, 1881
licenses: Illinois 1889, Maryland 1906

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1927 Wilmette City Directory
Edith L Ames (widow John G) resides 500 Maple
1933 Wilmette City Directory
Edith L Ames (widow John G) resides 500 Maple
1935 Wilmette City Directory
Edith L Ames (widow John G) resides house 1117 Ashland Avenue
1937 Wilmette City Directory
Edith L Ames (widow John G) resides 500 Maple
1939 Wilmette City Directory
Edith L Ames (widow John G) resides 500 Maple

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I didn't find John G Ames in Chicago in the 1910 or 1920 census.