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Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« on: Saturday 17 August 19 11:34 BST (UK) »
I have in front of me a copy of the certificate for the marriage (on 20/9/1925 in Willesden, Middlesex) between Ralph Cartwright Faulkner  and Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby aged 19. And it is the bride I am interested in.

I know that she later married a David Livingstone Learmouth in 1930, divorced him in 1931 and remarried him in 1936 and died in Sussex in 1983. Al this after her marriage to Faulkner which ended the following year. According to the marriage certificate she is 19, but according to her 1939 Register entry and her death registration she was born 5 February 1908 which would make her 17 at the time of the marriage - and her age a possible cause for the divorce (which is not online and no mention on BNA).

The marriage certificate also says her father was James Busby, colonel in the army. But so far this had not helped me to find her birth. I assume the Busby/Blake is because of a remarriage of a parent, but also no idea if she is referring to James Busby as father or possible stepfather. There is a William James Busby, a LC in WW1 records but uncertain if that means Lance Corporal or Lt Colonel?

So there is some uncertainty about her date of birth - we all know that folk could give amended ages on records - her actual birth surname, with no idea of where she was born, though I am assuming she could have been born Busby and her mother remarried a Blake. Incidentally the Busby name does not appear in the record of her 1930 marriage.

I would be grateful for any thoughts on trying to trace her origins.

Thanks
John






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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 August 19 11:38 BST (UK) »
Does she name the same father on both marriages and are there any Blake/Busby witnesses to either marriage that might help  :-\

Have you looked for any likely candidates for her in 1911 census?
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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 August 19 11:55 BST (UK) »
The divorce case papers are available at the National Archives (J 77/2289/1691). The application was in 1926, which is unusually quick if they only married in 1925,  and the husband was the petitioner. They must be worth looking at.

Exactly how is her name shown on the marriage ....does it actually say "or" or is it "formerly" or "otherwise" etc. ?

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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 August 19 11:57 BST (UK) »
Her occupation could be helpful.  Maybe any productions she was in would give some details of her parentage etc.

If she had children you could check the birth registrations for her maiden name - or whatever name she used - might not help  :-\
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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 August 19 12:48 BST (UK) »
Liverpool Echo 11 April 1932
Mrs Phyllis Livingstone Learmouth -
Miss Naomi Ludolf the actress ---- address Norfolk Crescent, London---granted decree nisi on the grounds of her husbands adultery -- husband Captain David Livingstone Learmouth

The 1930 marriage on freebmd shows an assortment of names
Blake    Phyllis                       
Cartwright Faulkner    Phyllis       
Faulkner    Phyllis C       
Ludolf    Naomi       
 
 
Livingstone-Learmonth    David J    Cartwright   
Livingstone-Learmonth    David J    Faulkner   
Livingstone-Learmonth    David J    Ludolf   
Livingstone-Learmonth    David J    Blake   

Hampstead    1a   1559   
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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 August 19 13:50 BST (UK) »
 William James Busby had a daughter Phillis Harriet Busby born 9 January 1908 baptized Broughton Oxfordshire, her mother was Fanny Elizabeth. His occupation labourer, so I expect the LC stands for Lance Corporal
This Phillis remained in Oxfordshire and Married George T Douglas.

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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 August 19 13:59 BST (UK) »
He was a well known  steeplechase rider..


You'll find him when you Google,plus Naomi Ludolf.
stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />

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Re: Phyllis Blake or Phyllis Busby born c1906 or 07 or 08.....
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 August 19 14:07 BST (UK) »
Her administration shows she was well off when she died  ;D . I wonder who applied for the administration of her estate
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,<br />james,<br /> nottingham,pollard,grice,<br />derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.<br /> new zealand,turton<br /> canada,carson.<br />australia,mitchell,scalley,<br />