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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #36 on: Friday 23 August 19 09:57 BST (UK) »

I presume that Eva did not marry and so was always a Nash.

Calling her daughter Joyce Annette Nash then makes sense.

I have spent my £1.50 on a copy of Eva's will to see if it sheds any light, though I rather doubt it.

davetur - Please come back and let us know if Eva's Will was any help.

1956 marriage Wandsworth
Eva A Nash and Fred Girling

Eva Annette GIRLING born 11 June 1905
Mar 2006 Kent
District number   5641H
Register number   KDH6
Entry number   137

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Eva Annette GIRLING Probate 03 April 2006 died 18 February 2006   
Grant and will Winchester

Edit this matches death given in reply 7 by Cazza47

Eva Annette NASH born 11 June 1905
Mar 2006 Kent
District number   5641H
Register number   KDH6
Entry number   137

Have you followed up on the possible marriage entry that Heywood posted?
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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #37 on: Friday 23 August 19 12:17 BST (UK) »
I still don't have the will, will post details when I do.
I have Eva Annette Nash (AKA Girling) who died on 11/6/05 with a birth date of 11 Jun 1905 from the death register. The Annette Nash on the 1939 Register also has a DOB of 11 Jun 1905. At least we know they must be the same person. I also have an electoral register for 1964 - 65 in Chiselhurst , Curtismill close with a Fred J and Annette Girling. This seems to match up with the 1956 Wandsworth marriage.
None of this really explains the convoluted marriage / widowhood with the De Burgh person and son. Perhaps the marriage was overseas such as Ireland or the Channel isles?
Why would someone (a relative, care home manager or solicitor) register a death under two surnames with the same register number?
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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #38 on: Friday 23 August 19 13:05 BST (UK) »
I suppose because the person was known by both names.
I don’t think there was a De Burgh marriage.

Hopefully the will might mention family.

You have strong evidence re Eva Nash/Girling etc because of the birthdate.

Maybe the electoral register re Princess Road might help - unless she was only working or lodging there  :-\
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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #39 on: Friday 23 August 19 13:16 BST (UK) »
. . .
Why would someone (a relative, care home manager or solicitor) register a death under two surnames with the same register number?

The death was NOT registered twice, it has been indexed twice because two names were entered in the register. viz: 'Eva Annette Girling formerly Nash' or 'Eva Annette Nash aka Girling'.
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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #40 on: Friday 23 August 19 13:47 BST (UK) »
I've had a good run through the electoral registers for London, from about 1937 to 1965. They mostly seem consistent with other information, such as appearance of son Brian from the 1950s and the change of name to Girling still at the same address. How old did you need to be to vote in 1950, 21 or 18? There seems to be a sudden jump from south London in the 1930s to Lewis in 1939, then a return to London in 1946. I presume this was an evacuation to safer countryside as I know that south London took a real hammering during the Blitz (several of my family were down the Tube stations every night, or evacuated to Devon). The London records are very good, but I have had no success with electoral registers for Manchester, any suggestions?
I too am beginning to think that Eva was a bit of a good time girl and that indeed there was no De Burgh marriage. At least she had the sense and perhaps support to keep the child second time around.
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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #41 on: Friday 23 August 19 15:45 BST (UK) »
Annette Nash is listed at Curtismill Close St Paul’s Cray Orpington Kent in 1951. It is listed under Bexley Electoral Rolls.

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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #42 on: Friday 23 August 19 16:12 BST (UK) »
How old did you need to be to vote in 1950, 21 or 18?

21 for both sexes.
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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:02 BST (UK) »
Not much to add but there seems to be a reason why Hubert and Eva didn't marry:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8069323

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Re: Nash family in Southport lancashire
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 25 August 19 16:08 BST (UK) »
I will have to chase up that divorce case at Kew. I'm sort of expecting Ms Winchcombe to be throwing some serious crockery, given what hubby may have been up to in 1930.
I have a bit more detail from the electoral lists:
Annette Nash was settled in Curtismills close for some time, son Brian appears when old enough to vore. Then there is the name change from Annette Nash to Girling with Fred living at same address. Finally Brian leaves in 1961 when his Wandsworth marriage happens.
I'm not sure what happens, but Brian might have dropped the De Burgh name and used Nash, in which case there are three children born in 62, 65 and 73. It would be rather nice if one of these children happened upon these posts in the future.
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