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Can records be changed back
« on: Monday 19 August 19 07:52 BST (UK) »
I know this is not Ancestry related but I wonder if any of you wonderful people can advise on a situation.
I had a son to my first marriage who was born in 1975.  That marriage ended and I married for a second time.  My first husband suggested it would be better if my new husband brought up our son as his own.  To cut a long story short my son was adopted into my new marriage.  I did not realise at the time that although I am his birth mother, I would have to adopt my own son into the new marriage.  His name was subsequently changed.  Several years later,  much to my dismay I visited what was Somerset House and looked up his birth and there is a handwritten entry noting that he is now entered into  the adopted child register.  All indication that I am his birth mother now gone.  He changed his name back  to his birth name many years ago but we would both like the entry into the adopted child register to either be removed or it be noted somewhere that his adoptive and birth mother are the same person,  this situation has caused problems in obtaining documentation, cannot recall what it was but am checking with my son,

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Re: Can records be changed back
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 August 19 08:44 BST (UK) »
There is some information here about changing a registration, but it does not seem to cover the situation you described. You will probably need to discuss the issue with a registrar to find out whether there are any options for change.
https://www.gov.uk/correct-birth-registration
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Re: Can records be changed back
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 August 19 08:46 BST (UK) »
There in lies a problem as I emigrated to New Zealand 13 years ago.  Perhaps I can contact them by email. Thank you for your response.

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Re: Can records be changed back
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 August 19 08:56 BST (UK) »
Try googling the Register Office for the district where the original paperwork was done. You should find a telephone number.
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Re: Can records be changed back
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 August 19 08:58 BST (UK) »
There is no error on the documents (as they stand) so there is no option to seek a correction.

You son has two birth records.

1 - the original birth registration, which still exists and names you as his birth mother. This will have been annotated with the word "adopted" at the time the adoption order was issued. He can still obtain a copy of that at any time.

2-  an entry in the Adopted Children Register showing you and your second husband as his adoptive parents. This became his legal record of parentage at the time the adoption order was issued by the court, so would be what he needed to use for official purposes (adopted children are usually given a "short" certificate from this to use because that doesn't mention the word adopted at all).

I'm not sure there is any way to undo this, especially now that he is well into adulthood. I would suggest speaking to a solicitor who deals with family law issues, or possibly a UK based adoption specialist.

He of course is free to use any name he chooses (at least under UK law), but if he is having problems with documents  because of reverting back to his birth name, he could make it official with a deed poll.

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 August 19 09:02 BST (UK) »
This was his problem as he asked for a copy and they said he could not have one because has been adopted.  This was only just over a year ago.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 August 19 09:06 BST (UK) »
This was his problem as he asked for a copy and they said he could not have one because has been adopted.  This was only just over a year ago.

That isn't a valid reason - anyone can order a copy of any birth record, doesn't matter whether it is marked as adopted or not. Either ring the registration office who hold the record again and insist, or just order one via the GRO website.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

As it is less than 50 years ago he will need to add additional information on the order screen, but you/he should know the details required.

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 August 19 10:55 BST (UK) »
This was his problem as he asked for a copy and they said he could not have one because has been adopted.  This was only just over a year ago.

Jayandjay, whoever 'they' are, they're wrong.

AntonyMMM has professional knowledge of this subject and I can add a personal note.  My husband was adopted by his step-father and birth mother, and his surname was changed.   He had the 'short' certificate with the new name, but a few years ago he ordered a GRO copy of his full birth certificate.  GRO sent a very nice letter about counselling services for adoptees, so he rang them and explained that he knew all about the adoption and gave enough detail for them to release the certificate without counselling.  It arrived in the post a few days later.

All the best to you and your son,

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