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Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« on: Friday 23 August 19 11:13 BST (UK) »
I have got a 1926 birth in Rathdrum but on the certificate it  doesn't actually show where the birth was. Only Rathdrum
under dwelling nothing other than WicklowUD same
for mother's dwelling. They are married.

Now l thought perhaps if there was a workhouse with hospital attached. Maybe he was born there but that would not account for lack of address!
Has anyone else had birth cert with information lacking?

I see there is one RC  church in the village so hope he was baptised there 
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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 August 19 12:33 BST (UK) »
My mother in law's 1917 birth cert from County Clare just says Kiltrellig,no address ,but I know she was born at home.
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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 August 19 13:26 BST (UK) »
My mother in law's 1917 birth cert from County Clare just says Kiltrellig,no address ,but I know she was born at home.
??? I don't understand what you mean.
Kiltrellig is a townland, so wasn't that her address.


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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 August 19 13:34 BST (UK) »

Kiltrellig townland, Kilballyowen Civil Parish, in Co. Clare.
https://www.townlands.ie/clare/moyarta/kilballyowen/kilballyowen/kiltrellig/

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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 August 19 13:51 BST (UK) »
The townland would have been the actual and complete address. The townland would have been used for census, valuation and any other records/forms to be filled out. In larger town and cities there would have been street names and larger houses/estates might have had a name for the property but the townland was still the official address.

Not sure about Wicklow but in County Londonderry rural areas only got road names in early 1970s. Certainly a few years ago rural Fermanagh was using only townland names.

Just Wednesday a relative's death certificate had to be filled out and whilst the form asked for street and postcode for place of birth we gave the townland name as that was the address at the time of his birth.

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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 August 19 14:08 BST (UK) »
My mother in law's 1917 birth cert from County Clare just says Kiltrellig,no address ,but I know she was born at home.
??? I don't understand what you mean.
Kiltrellig is a townland, so wasn't that her address.

Yes that is the town land , but most certs give an actual address , such as so and so farm or a street and house number.
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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 August 19 14:23 BST (UK) »
If there was no street address or name of house the townland would have been given. If there was a street name or house number or house name the townland was still the address so very, very often is listed as residence in any sort of document.
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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 August 19 15:32 BST (UK) »
Houses don't have numbers in rural Ireland, or even in most villages or small towns. The numbers on the census returns are form numbers not house numbers (sometimes in larger towns and City there is a matching house number)
Farms have the name of the people farming it, not like the do in England where each farm seems to have a name no matter who owns it. UK had Emmerdale Farm, in Ireland we had The Riordans.
It was the lack of house numbers which made them introduce the Eircode, now every house in the country has it's own postal code.
There will only be a street name if they lived in town big enough to have street names.

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Re: Birth certificate minus exact birth address
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 August 19 20:27 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,
So have l got this right Rathdrum would have be a small village in 1920's with no street names as such hence no address.
Many many thanks for your replies 😊
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