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Offline sueappleton

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Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« on: Sunday 25 August 19 13:14 BST (UK) »
I have photos of 19th century drawings of two men who may or may not have been related. Does anyone know of someone who is qualified and would be able to study the drawings and give an opinion as to whether the two men concerned might have been related?  Or failing that, is there a way to do it myself online (some sort of facial matching?)  I am a novice in this area but if this were possible it would help solve a very long-standing and stubborn puzzle.
Moss, White, Bray, Scott, Raymond, Randell, Underdown, Squire, Herring, Nottle,  Brook(e)s, Mugg, Hopping, McInnes, Fleming, Fairchild, Polkinghorn(e), Hicks, Glasson,

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 August 19 13:30 BST (UK) »
You could always post them here and get people's opinions.

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 August 19 13:40 BST (UK) »
Quote from: sueappleton on Sunday 25 August 19 13:14 BST (UK)
I have photos of 19th century drawings of two men who may or may not have been related. Does anyone know of someone who is qualified and would be able to study the drawings and give an opinion as to whether the two men concerned might have been related?  Or failing that, is there a way to do it myself online (some sort of facial matching?)  I am a novice in this area but if this were possible it would help solve a very long-standing and stubborn puzzle.

As Mike says there are many people here who've given opinions on family likenesses and also used tools to compare shapes of face/eyebrows/ear positions etc.  (Often on the Picture Restoration Board, but you can certainly post here to get some good opinions)

Look forward to seeing the images  :)
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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much Mike and Igor!  If I can figure out how to do so, I will post the photos!
Moss, White, Bray, Scott, Raymond, Randell, Underdown, Squire, Herring, Nottle,  Brook(e)s, Mugg, Hopping, McInnes, Fleming, Fairchild, Polkinghorn(e), Hicks, Glasson,

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:10 BST (UK) »
Moss, White, Bray, Scott, Raymond, Randell, Underdown, Squire, Herring, Nottle,  Brook(e)s, Mugg, Hopping, McInnes, Fleming, Fairchild, Polkinghorn(e), Hicks, Glasson,

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:12 BST (UK) »
Moss, White, Bray, Scott, Raymond, Randell, Underdown, Squire, Herring, Nottle,  Brook(e)s, Mugg, Hopping, McInnes, Fleming, Fairchild, Polkinghorn(e), Hicks, Glasson,

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:13 BST (UK) »
I realise the facial hair does not help, but the only photos I have are similar!  I do have other photos of the first person, but this is the best for comparison, I think.
I said they were both drawings, but the first one is actually an early photograph taken in 1872.
Moss, White, Bray, Scott, Raymond, Randell, Underdown, Squire, Herring, Nottle,  Brook(e)s, Mugg, Hopping, McInnes, Fleming, Fairchild, Polkinghorn(e), Hicks, Glasson,

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:19 BST (UK) »
I think there is a likelihood it's the same man.

Nose looks very similar, ears in similar position on the head, and - perhaps - even the hair in the 'younger' image is receding slightly.....

Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Comparing faces in 19th century drawings
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 August 19 14:19 BST (UK) »

An older version of Person 1.
Moss, White, Bray, Scott, Raymond, Randell, Underdown, Squire, Herring, Nottle,  Brook(e)s, Mugg, Hopping, McInnes, Fleming, Fairchild, Polkinghorn(e), Hicks, Glasson,
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