Margrie. Emigrations

[Norfg]

Looking for emigration data on William Margrie and his son Frederick.
William b.Shaldon, Devon 1828. Resided in Exmouth in his youth. Said to have emigrated to USA, no date though. There for about 20 years . He returned to Exmouth and first managed then bought an iron foundry until retirement c.1901.  Died 1910.

Frederick Margrie was born in 1865 in Exmouth. In the English census for 1901 he is married with 6 children, with a plumbing and bicycle-making and selling business.  There is a mention that in April 1903 he went to Canada. No other info.  By 1911, he and his family are again listed in the census.  It appears that the business had been kept going. By his wife, perhaps?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

[rosie99]

There are no passenger records from the UK prior to the 1890's

[polarbear]

Assuming I have found the correct family......

Arrived Quebec Canada 17 Aug 1911 on route to Vancouver BC. The dates are blurry but Frederick and William had been in Canada several years by the look of things; Sarah, Ethel, and Hetty had not been in Canada before.

Frederick Margrie 46
Sarah 48
William 19
Ethel 17
Hetty 13 or 15?

Amy, Annie, and Betty must also have come over at some point (see below).

It looks like they settled permanently in Canada. This link will give you info about marriages for 5 daughters and the deaths of Sarah, Fred, and William. Images are available for most; click at the bottom of the index item. Put just the last name....

You may find more deaths by tracing the married ladies and their spouses.

http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy

Fred can be found in several voters lists in BC.

You can search for family members in the 1921 Canada census for free at this link to Library and Archives Canada. Click on census in the column to the left....

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

PB

[rosie99]

Just looking for gap for trip to USA for William (1828)

1841 William is in Withycombe Rawleigh age 12
1851 he is in Withycombe Rawleigh age 22 married to Sarah (Pinn)
1861
1865 Son Frederick bn England
1871 in Littleham with wife Sarah and son Fred bn 1865 Exmouth. (mmn Pinn)
1874 death Sarah Squire Magrie
1874 married Emma Blackmore Williams
children born Devon
1875 son William
1876 son Edmund
1877 dtr Emma
1880 son Thomas
1881
1891 in Littleham occ Blacksmith

[polarbear]

I have now found Dorothy and Betty on a different page of the same manifest as Fred, Sarah, and the other children.

It appears that Annie and Amy are on a UK departure manifest in 1910.

So I think that covers all the family coming to Canada.

There is a tree for Amy on Ancestry if you have access. There appears to be one incorrect brother listed for her, however. He died in WW1 and the CWGC has different parents for him, not Fred and Sarah. So caution warranted wrt to the tree.

PB

[polarbear]

This link will give you the ship manifest for Frederick and Sarah and 3 of the children. It looks like Fred and William must have returned to England in 1911 in time to be counted in the census and then they all left for Canada. They are at the bottom of the page.

I can't make out the year Fred and William originally arrived and don't see them on a passenger list to this point. There is an F Margrie on a passenger list to Quebec in 1903 but he is a child of 10. I wouldn't think Fred would have left before Betty was born?

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-quebec-port-1865-1900/Pages/image.aspx?Image=e003572975&URLjpg=http%3a%2f%2fcentral.bac-lac.gc.ca%2f.item%2f%3fid%3de003572975%26op%3dimg&Ecopy=e003572975

PB

[bbart]

The 1910 funeral announcement for William has a bunch of family names that may help:

Mourners:
the widow
Mssrs. Fred, William and Tom Margrie (sons)
Mr. and Mrs. G. Murduck (son-in-law and daughter)
Mrs. F. Margire, Mrs. E. Margrie (daughters-in-law)
Mrs. Williams (Lympstone, sister-in-law)
Ethel and Willkie Margrie and Ernest Murduck (grandchildren)
Mrs. Trim, Mrs. Slocombe, Mrs. West (nieces)

Mourners with no relation stated:
Mr and Mrs. T. Sedgemore
Messrs W. R. Redway, J. Bray, Knowling, Burrow and Webster

[bbart]

I don't think this was mentioned, but you may have found it already from the links Polarbear gave you:
Fred's death:  http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/e8cfc94a-9b45-4d5d-86aa-cb81598fc4c8

[polarbear]

Here is the arrival of Amy and Annie in 1910. They were going to Vancouver.

Click on the image to enlarge it.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-quebec-port-1865-1900/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=2931332&

PB