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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 31 August 19 10:40 BST (UK) »
Majm

See my post at 0924.  It is the case that conscription in UK was introduced for the first time by the Military Service Act 1916.  Previous conflicts had been fought by volunteers.

Janjim

There is no central register of men joining the many regiments and corps of the British Army  in any period.  One can only look for individual names in the records that do exist.  Unfortunately, many records of the time do not have personal identifying information.  Example - a small number of men listed as J Greenfield come up in the Boer war medal roll but all that gives is a name and regiment, none appear to have any other records.

I find no records that might be your man.  The 1901 census at Aldershot doesn't throw up either name.

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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 31 August 19 10:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks MaxD  :D

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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 31 August 19 10:50 BST (UK) »
Daughter Mabel makes a surprise return to Newbury records in 1906
Mabel Greenfield, born 18.11.95
Admitted to St Nicholas Church Of England School 2.10.06
Last school Handsworth
Left 29.10.06
Was a visitor + has left Newbury

Did she die as Mabel Edith K Broadbridge in 1980?

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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 31 August 19 11:15 BST (UK) »
Death
March 1941 Birmingham 6d 5
Broadbridge, Ada   
age 65

Marriage
Sep 1944 Birmingham 6d 355
Broadbridge, William
Holdsworth, Mary M.

Has janjim got this marriage certificate?
1945 electoral register has them at 10 Cornwall Road Handsworth.
1939 electoral register had William and Ada Broadbridge at that address.

Don't think it was mentioned on this previous thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767018.0


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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 31 August 19 12:08 BST (UK) »
Have you discounted the William Broadbridge bn c1869 who was living in Fulham with his widowed mother Harriet

1871 -RG10/69 f96 p35
1881-  RG11/66 f44 p17
1891- RG12/46 f132 p30 - William age 20 Railway Engine Cleaner bn Fulham

Harriet died in 1893. 
In 1861 she is with her husband George RG9/33 f78 p16.  Georges occupation was a Brick Layer

I ought to go and read your other thread in case it has already been mentioned.
ADDED -  OK have seen this has already been mentioned.
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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 31 August 19 12:20 BST (UK) »
Yes I am just as confuddled about this man as you are JM, the marriage certificate shows him as being in the Army Service Corp at Aldershot in 1894.  Retract my statement about the Boer War.

Come 1903 when his son Frederick George Greenfield Broadbridge was born, John Greenfield/William Broadbridge's occupation is now shown as Tramway Man.

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I am somewhat confuddled ... if you have him on the UK 1901census as a house painter,  why would he have been in the Army 1899-1902 Boer War ... in Africa?

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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 31 August 19 12:22 BST (UK) »
Rosie, No, I have not discounted this theory at all.   For whatever reason it seems to me that William Broadbridge should be the man, but when he married Ada New, he somehow decided to change his name to John Greenfield.
Jan

Have you discounted the William Broadbridge bn c1869 who was living in Fulham with his widowed mother Harriet

1871 -RG10/69 f96 p35
1881-  RG11/66 f44 p17
1891- RG12/46 f132 p30 - William age 20 Railway Engine Cleaner bn Fulham

Harriet died in 1893. 
In 1861 she is with her husband George RG9/33 f78 p16.  Georges occupation was a Brick Layer

I ought to go and read your other thread in case it has already been mentioned.
ADDED -  OK have seen this has already been mentioned.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 31 August 19 12:26 BST (UK) »
jon,
No I don't have the marriage certificate for William Broadbridge in 1944, after Ada's death.
We did hear that he married again.  It could be worth getting this, maybe provide with more information, but English certificates do not give much detailed information compared to Australian.
Jan

Death
March 1941 Birmingham 6d 5
Broadbridge, Ada   
age 65

Marriage
Sep 1944 Birmingham 6d 355
Broadbridge, William
Holdsworth, Mary M.

Has janjim got this marriage certificate?
1945 electoral register has them at 10 Cornwall Road Handsworth.
1939 electoral register had William and Ada Broadbridge at that address.

Don't think it was mentioned on this previous thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767018.0
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Searching Military records around 1894 UK
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 31 August 19 14:37 BST (UK) »
The clarification of his regiment as the Army Service Corps (spelled with an s and a silent p as in swimming) doesn't help unfortunately.  Even then the ASC was a large organisation and even if we knew which specific unit of the ASC he served in wouldn't  get us any further as there appear to be no Greenfield (or Broadbridge) service records popping up for that time period.  Generally, if a man didn't serve a full 21 years and was discharged without a disability, then his records were not retained.

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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