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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 05 September 19 23:40 BST (UK) »

I found a Catholic baptism record for a Henry Shiels born Darver, Co. Louth, parents Brabazon Disney Shiels and Rose Rooney. Then their marriage record in both the Catholic and COI records married 11 March 1850?On the marriage information both Brabazon and Rose are 60 years of age at the time of marriage?


I am totally at a loss on how to sort this out but I believe Brabazon was 100% COI so I need to find a way to check COI birth records for children either around the early 1800's like the Henry Shiels entry or after 1850 when they married but at age 60, can't see them having children then.

When and where. i.e. which parish was the baptism of Henry?
There were no birth records in early 1800s; I assume you meant baptism registers.
A possibility is that they had a child/children long before their marriage. 
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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 05 September 19 23:56 BST (UK) »



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they married 1850 Brabazon and Rose are 60 years of age at the time of marriage!!

Martha Emily Shiels married in 1858 her father was Brabazon Disney Shiels

quite possibly a second marriage for both Brabazon and Rose

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #29 on: Friday 06 September 19 00:54 BST (UK) »
Henry Shiels or Sheils I found in the Catholic on line records for the Parish of Darver. I started to look a few years on each side of 1814 for more children, but the hand writing is so cramped and how to read but I will keep trying.

In britishnewspaperarchives I found another story mentioning Brabazon Disney Sheils which is interesting but I don't understand. It says that
"Decrees In Chancery. "James Hodson Bond (plaintiff), Brabazon Disney Sheils, William Farran and Rebecca Sheils Eccleston as defendants. An order was made 20 January 1845 and 7 November 1846 where lands were to be sold to the highest and fairest bidder all the lands of Newtowndarer, Co. Louth by a Willam Henn. This is interesting because James Hodson bond married Elizabeth Anne Sheils in Dublin in the Church of Ireland in 1838.St. Marks. Elizabeth Sheils is my connection. Then a Rosa Sheils marries a Richard Talbot 22 January 1850 in Dundalk, Co. Louth but not sure if Brabazon was her Father.

If the COI records for Darver have been lost because of the 1922 fire, I am out of luck. I can feel certain though that Brabazon Disney Sheils father was William Sheils and he had a brother Henry who died in 1829 at 29 years of age which is mentioned in the Book mentioned above which I saw on line as well.

I am wondering if like was mentioned Brabazon married this Rebecca Sheils Eccleston that was named in the newspaper article about some dispute over land and wonder what that was about since it involved Brabazon's son-in-law?

Once again sincerest thanks for all this amazing effort!!!!

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #30 on: Friday 06 September 19 08:10 BST (UK) »


Might be worth investigating who Widow Catherine Newingingham otherwise Tighe of Weston Super Mare was and how she was related to Brab Disney Sheils...if she made a Will, who her husbands was, date Death, Age etc....


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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #31 on: Friday 06 September 19 09:05 BST (UK) »
Prerogative Wills
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01obd/

the second William appears to be 1842 by searching other names on same page

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #32 on: Friday 06 September 19 09:10 BST (UK) »

It looks like she is the Landlady... Brab got Henry's part, with George and Brab being named 'as lives' on earlier Deed, George is now Deceased, and Brab now has his 3rd son Wm named as 'a life'

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #34 on: Friday 06 September 19 09:58 BST (UK) »


 

I am wondering if like was mentioned Brabazon married this Rebecca Sheils Eccleston that was named in the newspaper article about some dispute over land and wonder what that was about since it involved Brabazon's son-in-law?

Once again sincerest thanks for all this amazing effort!!!!

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Henry Sheils married Rose Eccleston...


Nice Dowry!

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Re: Brabazon Disney Shiels- One marriage entered in Catholic and COI??
« Reply #35 on: Friday 06 September 19 10:19 BST (UK) »
This says 1807 William W H Newenham and Catherine Tighe married 25th July 1807 St Andrew C O I  Dublin but also says certificate dated 1830
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=japmd12-andrew-02