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Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« on: Tuesday 03 September 19 06:17 BST (UK) »
I am looking for a burial of Catherine Russell who died in 1873 at Bonnybridge, Falkirk. Catherine was the 2nd wife of John Russell who died sometime after the 1851 Census aged around 90 yrs (no death reg can be found).  John Russell and his family had been living at Bonnybridge since before the 1841 census. I am hoping that Catherine was buried with her husband.

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 September 19 07:50 BST (UK) »
Hi ,

Was Catherine's maiden name Henderson ?
If so the burial could be under Russell or Henderson.


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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 03 September 19 10:05 BST (UK) »
Yes, Catherine's maiden name was Henderson.

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 September 19 11:16 BST (UK) »
Records on https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk

RUSSELL   CATHERINE   80   Death    1873   Falkirk Landward

Do you have the above death record, which would have been registered in Falkirk?

It looks likely that John died before Statutory Registration began in Scotland in 1855.

There are Church burial records on Scotland’s People in Falkirk 1817 – 1861 but no John there or elsewhere in the County but not all churches have burial records.

Bonnybridge is a small village in the Falkirk council area of Scotland. It is 4.0 miles west of Falkirk, as far as I can see the churches there were not established until after 1855.

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 September 19 20:41 BST (UK) »
Yes, I do have Catherine Russell's death record and the informant was her neighbour who was recorded as being her neighbour in the 1871 Census.  Catherine was born in Caithness and she only had one daughter Helen who seemed to disappear after the 1861 Census so I don't think she had any other relatives around and the Russell's had lived in Bonnybridge for ages.

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 September 19 11:15 BST (UK) »
A – Z Indices are available for the following Burial Grounds:
http://www.memento-mori.co.uk/LOCATION%20INDEX.pdf

I did find a number of Russell burials in Denny near to Bonnybridge but no Catherine or John, amongst the ones I saw some went back to the period Catherine died but I think the earliest was 1865. So maybe one of the older burial grounds.

·   Denny Cemetery, Falkirk Road, Denny

Denny Cemetery (A803), Denny Stirlingshire
Denny Old Parish Churchyard Junction of Duke Street & Glasgow Road (A872),
Denny Stirlingshire
Dennyloanhead Churchyard Junction of Glasgow/Denny Rd. (A872) & Bonnybridge Rd. (A803) Stirlingshire.

I think it might be worth contacting Falkirk District Council for advice.

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[email protected]falkirk.gov.uk

Separate post to follow re Helen.

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 September 19 12:00 BST (UK) »
JOHN RUSSELL   Married    CATHARINE HENDERSON/   19/07/1816   Denny

I note from the 1851 census John was born Denny. Helen not listed
RUSSELL   John   Head   88   Leat Weaver   STI   Denny
RUSSELL   Catharn   Wife   70   Wife   CAI   

In 1841 address noted as Bonnybridge, Helen present age 20.

HELEN RUSSELL   Baptism    JOHN RUSSELL/CATHERINE HENDERSON    11/11/1818   Falkirk

I guess this is Helen’s marriage.
RUSSELL   HELEN   WILLIAM SCOTT   11/01/1843   Denny & Falkirk

In 1851 the family are at Woodend, Falkirk William a Farm Servant 40, Helen 35, John 6,
Elisabeth 1.

1861/1871 - as above plus Thomas 13 & Helen 7. (Helen senior noted as 58 in 1871)

Although the ages are out, if I have the correct family for Helen this may be her death record, Helen got older on each census.

HELEN SCOTT   Age    65   Died    1876   Falkirk Landward

WILLIAM SCOTT   Age    74   Died    1881   Falkirk Landward

All above on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 September 19 04:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks ColC for all the help you have given me.  Upon searching for Thomas Scott, who was missing from the household of William and Helen Scott in 1851, I found a Thomas Scott, 3 yrs, in the household of his grandparents in Bowridge, Haggs, Denny, and his grandparents were Thomas and Elizabeth Russell. I then found a Tree on FamilySearch which actually took the RUSSELL family back to the 17th Century and Thomas' grandparents were Thomas Russell and Elizabeth Cuthill.

Thanks again

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Re: Looking for burial - Catherine Russell died Bonnybridge Falkirk 1873
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 September 19 14:50 BST (UK) »
found a Tree on FamilySearch which actually took the RUSSELL family back to the 17th Century
Never trust anything you find online unless it is an image of an original document - and even then be wary. In particular do not trust online trees.

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