Francis Henry Bayliss Fisher born 1899 Kings Norton

[Mansl]

I have Francis Henry Bayliss Fisher married to Eva Mabel Mansell.

On his marriage in 1919 at Water Orton his father was Francis Baylis(dec) butcher

His birth in 1899 GRO said mmn  Hunt.

I would like to find out his mother's first name.

I have not found him in any census

All I know is he died in 1933 somewhere near Water Orton.

Alan

[CaroleW]

If he was FHB Fisher - wasn't his father HB Fisher - not Bayliss?

Have you looked for a Fisher/Hunt marriage on freebmd

[BumbleB]

I can't readily see a marriage between Fisher and Hunt 1880-1900. 

Just a thought that Hunt is the original maiden name of the mother, but that she had been widowed, and therefore the marriage to Francis Fisher would be under that surname.

Not explaining myself very well - I have an instance of Archbell marrying Ridehalgh, but their daughter's birth showed mmn = Ashworth.  Annie Ashworth first marries Thomas Ridehalgh, who dies.  Annie then married Herbert Archbell. 

Perhaps the only way to solve your problem is to purchase the 1899 birth certificate. 


 

[Mansl]

Yes I suppose it is I have just purchased 8 at £7-00 each in the last two weeks. I was hoping someone else may find him in a census where I couldn't. 

[keyboard86]

Hi possibly a red herring, who is the adopted son Francis Fisher b c 1900 with William & Emily Elson in 1901 b Smethwick?
He is an Elson in 1911 b Kings Heath?
RG13/2653/48/2
Keyboard86

[CaroleW]

If you use GRO maiden name search for Fisher/Hunt births it throws up Cyril James 1902 and Wilfred Foster Thomas 1900 both Kings Norton RD

Both with parents 1911 but doubt it's connected to yours.  Just means there is a Hunt/Fisher marriage somewhere

[heywood]

Carole,
Here is that family in 1911 - no Francis though
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BD-QY4

[heywood]

Hi possibly a red herring, who is the adopted son Francis Fisher b c 1900 with William & Emily Elson in 1901 b Smethwick?
He is an Elson in 1911?
RG13/2653/48/2
Keyboard86

It may be just coincidental but there is a large Hunt family a couple of doors away from the Elsons in 1901.

[suzard]

this is a real long shot !!!

1891 Lichfield St Fazeley Staffs
Francis Baylis Head M 40 Butcher Fazeley
Elizabeth wife 38 Wolverhampton
FRANCIS H son U 20 Butcher's assistant Fazeley
Herbert f son 16 Butchers assistant Fazeley
Agnes I daughter 14 Butchers asst Fazeley
Phillip C son 13 Butchers Asst Fazeley
Harriet E daughter 12 Sutton Coldfield
Belinda M A 7 Sutton Coldfield
Elizabeth daughter 5 Fazeley
Ida Jones 24 Mothers Help Wolverhampton
ELIZABETH HUNT U 18 general servant Coventry Warwicks
RG12 2211 23 9

was maybe Frances H illegit and his mother was Elizabeth Hunt???
RG12 2211 23 9
1901 1 Mill Lane Lichfield St fazeley
Francis H Baylis U30 Butcher Fazeley
Phillip Bayliss brother U 24 Butcher Fazeley
plus 2 servants
Sept qtr 1901 Francis Henry Baylis married Lily Agnes Cooke
they had a son c. 1903 named Francis Henry Herbert Baylis

so did Elizabeth Hunt marry a Mr Fisher???

Birth cert definately needed

Suz