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Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« on: Thursday 05 September 19 14:15 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help me please  ???
I am looking for the marriage of Isaac and Fanny, on their Naturalization paper it says they were subjects of Russia having been born in Zawosht(?) Lublin.
I would also like to know when they came to England, their eldest son is 10 in 1891 and was born in Russia but their next son is 8 and was born in London.
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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 September 19 20:06 BST (UK) »
Incoming passenger lists are on Ancestry
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/bt26/?name=isaac_feiler
(I don't have a sub at the moment, so I can't check full details)

If Isaac and Fanny are on the 1911 census it should give the number of years married which would narrow down the search for a marriage.

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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 September 19 20:53 BST (UK) »
What town were they in ?
It may be possible to find school records for the children
My ancestors arrived in Manchester in 1890 from Jewish pogroms in Russia

Some school records give
dates of birth + schoo entry date .parents or guardian .s name address and previous school or date of leaving.
Manchester Jewish school held detailed records as did the 1900-4 records of a Birkenhead C of E school
Tho the children's names got gradually more angliscized over the years.good luck.
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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 September 19 20:57 BST (UK) »
Ps that incoming document is incoming from new york
To Glasgow. #. Orig Document says Liverpool

  aged 40
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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:15 BST (UK) »
Ps that incoming document is incoming from new york
To Glasgow aged 40

I wondered about  Isaac S FAILOR to Southampton, I VALOR to Southampton or I FIELLER to Bristol (less likely?) - these seem to be the likeliest candidates now you have eliminated Aizik FEILER.

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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:33 BST (UK) »
On 1891 census Isaac is a fishmonger and there are 5 more you g children on the next page of the census

Children's names may be important. In finding grandparents names on wedding certs
* Abraham 10
Harry 8
Sarah 5
Bernard 3
Samuel 1
Alice 1 mth
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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:42 BST (UK) »
1911
Isaac is in London
Daughter Alice age 20 is fishmongers assistant
The older children and Fanny not on census but 5 more children
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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:47 BST (UK) »
Children born in Clerkenwell
Then spittalfieilds
Annie 18
Maurice 16 a musician in theatre ...maybe there will be some publications about him .

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Re: Isaac Feiler and Fanny Swartzman
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 September 19 21:50 BST (UK) »
I'm on a roll ..there is a birth for Isaak Feiler in Sambor Ukraine 1870
And marriages births for Isaak Feer 1887 and 1891 Sambor can't see details maybe Abrahams birth
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