Author Topic: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.  (Read 3658 times)

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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 September 19 22:09 BST (UK) »
Somebody called Honeycomb or equivalent?

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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 September 19 22:43 BST (UK) »
How intriguing.  :)

I would say that label looks 1950s in style, even possibly as early as the 20s. :-\

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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 September 19 22:57 BST (UK) »
Somebody called Honeycomb or equivalent?

Skoosh.

I can see that bees and bee-hives have been used as charges, but I can't find any reference to honeycomb?
Hence my thinking that it might be vair.
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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 September 19 23:38 BST (UK) »
When I first looked at this I thought it looked like an acorn.  Please bear in mind this was at 6.30 this morning and my eyes weren't working properly  ;D
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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 September 19 09:12 BST (UK) »
Ah! 2005 vintage ;D

I usually use "A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry", James Parker, 1894.

But many thanks for that. Learn something new every day. ;)
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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 15 September 19 11:04 BST (UK) »
The engraver would have to use hatching to signify colour. 

So, I believe the blazon to be -   

Per fess Or and Colour three bars Colour a charge Colour 

or something very similar. 

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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 15 September 19 12:42 BST (UK) »
The problem with this is the imprint on the seal prior to the wax hardening, distorting the left hand side.

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Re: Wax seal crest on the back of an old painting.
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 15 September 19 13:50 BST (UK) »
I don't see how that could be a problem, Malky. 

The partial image on the left was made first. The full image was then superimposed. We know this because it is the full image and has no other image superimposed. 

It is still accepted procedure that when using a seal/watch fob/signet ring one licks the surface of the seal first to make a kind of releasing agent. It doesn't take too much imagination to see that the combination of fat fingers + small seal + too much slobber + too much very hot wax could easily produce a poor finished product. 

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