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Offline Heatha

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Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« on: Wednesday 18 September 19 21:46 BST (UK) »
Hello Hertfordshire !

In 1931 (2nd quarter) Norman Rupert SIMMS married Ethel I CROFT in Luton registration district.

In 1932 (2nd quarter) the birth of their daughter was registered in Berkhampstead registration district, Hertfordshire. (I will post on the Bedfordshire forum as well.)

After that I totally lose sight of them. Has anyone any ideas ?

Thanks,

Heatha
LAY - HAM, BKM
SARGENT - SFK
THAIN - NFK, SFK, YKS
DEAN - YKS
WAGER- YKS
HARRIS - BKM
SIMMS - BKM
and lots more besides

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Re: Birth of Joy S SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 21:48 BST (UK) »
Rootschat has a no living persons policy to protect peoples privacy.  The daughters name needs to  be removed from your post and from your Subject box

Look on freebmd - possible marriage for daughter 1952.  No death recorded
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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 21:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you - old age plays tricks on the memory. I have removed the name.
LAY - HAM, BKM
SARGENT - SFK
THAIN - NFK, SFK, YKS
DEAN - YKS
WAGER- YKS
HARRIS - BKM
SIMMS - BKM
and lots more besides


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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 22:12 BST (UK) »
How do you know his middle name was Rupert?  Marriage reg on freebmd only shows his initial.

When was he born?  Freebmd has a Norman R Simms birth 1910 Aylesbury and a tree on Ancestry shows he died 1992 - no location shown and nothing online for 1992
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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
The GRO gives his names as Norman Rupert. He was born in Quainton in the 4th quarter of 1910. I have searched high and low for him in 1939 with no success.

There is no evidence for his death in 1992 on Ancestry. I cannot believe anything without a source.

He is my second cousin.
LAY - HAM, BKM
SARGENT - SFK
THAIN - NFK, SFK, YKS
DEAN - YKS
WAGER- YKS
HARRIS - BKM
SIMMS - BKM
and lots more besides

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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 22:38 BST (UK) »
The tree shows Ethel was b 1911 in which case I wonder if she was really Ethel I.  A birth in Skirlaugh 1911 has Ethell Croft and this is confirmed by GRO search

The tree shows she died 1992 - coincidence??  Nothing online to support that death year

Daughter shown as died 2013 - tree confirms the 1952 marriage was correct

Would suggest you may get more info by contacting the tree owner

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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 September 19 23:45 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on Ancestry that shows his death as before 1991. None of the trees have any sources for a death. There is no sign of them them in 1939.
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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 September 19 07:56 BST (UK) »
I am extremely wary of the information given in Ancestry trees. I see a great deal of wrong information in them.
LAY - HAM, BKM
SARGENT - SFK
THAIN - NFK, SFK, YKS
DEAN - YKS
WAGER- YKS
HARRIS - BKM
SIMMS - BKM
and lots more besides

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Re: Birth of Miss SIMMS in Hertfordshire.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 September 19 08:17 BST (UK) »
As per Bedfordshire Electoral Rolls available on Anc*...

From 1933 to 1936 at 217 Park Street Luton is Norman Simms & Ethel Simms, along with John Croft, Mary Jane Croft & George Croft - most likely Ethel's family.
In 1937 at 222 Park Street Luton are the Crofts & Ethel Simms but not Norman
In 1938 at 222 Park Street Luton are just the Crofts - no Simms

Cheers John
 
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