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Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« on: Tuesday 24 September 19 12:16 BST (UK) »
   I am researching the Berridge family from Huntingdonshire and I am looking for copies of the following certificates:
 
   (a) Wilfred Harry Berridge marriage to Emma Wills (July/August/September of 1907) in St. Neots District. I believe that this was a civil marriage.
 
   (b) (Wilfred) Walter Berridge born January/February/March of 1908, registered in St Neots District.

If there is anyone who can help me to locate these documents I'd be very grateful.

Thanks.

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 12:38 BST (UK) »
Wilfred Harry Berridge/Emma Wills marriage

GRO reference
Sep 1907 St Neots vol 3b p608

Wilfred Walter Berridge birth

GRO Reference
Mar 1908 St Neots vol 3b p267 mother's maiden name Wills

You can order the certificates from the GRO using this link

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 12:39 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

You can only view birth certificates by purchasing them, unless of course someone already has and is willing to share it.  You can get PDF's from the GRO for £7

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
BERRIDGE, WILFRED  WALTER     mmn WILLS 
1908  March Quarter in SAINT NEOTS  Volume 03B  Page 267

If the marriage was a civil ceremony you would also need to order a copy from the GRO or local register office.  This would not be available as a PDF
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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 13:11 BST (UK) »
You definitely need the M/C but I dont think it will help much with his Fathers name.

As you know 1891/1901 Wilfred is with his Grandparents Edward/Ann.

This looks to be his Birth Reg and he was illegitimate.

BERRIDGE, WILFRID  HARRY KIRKUP    - no Mothers maiden name***
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in ST NEOTS  Volume 03B  Page 302

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 13:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish.

Thanks for the quick reply. Wilfred Harry (b. 1889) is the father of Wilfred Berridge (b. 1908). The family lived in Rushden, Northamptonshire. The family had a long history of making shoes. I'm trying to find the 1908 birth details and am finding it very confusing.

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 13:27 BST (UK) »
Edward/Amm only appear to have 2 Daughters who could be Wilfreds Mother.
Sarah E (Elizabeth)
Sophia c 1860
Sophia 1867

Sophia marries 1899 Middlesex to Jesse MILLARD and dies in Victoria, Australia 1827
Father Edward Berridge
Husband Jesse appears to have remarried 1928 and dies 1959

Sarah married 1881 to William Blunt so unlikely to be Wilfrids Mother.

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 13:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Peter,
Rosie gave you the Birth Reg with Mothers mn of Wilfrid Walter 1908.

There appear to be no on line Baptisms for the 2 Wilfrids and as the Marriage of Wilfrid/Emma was a civil one not a Church one no info will be available without buying the Cert.

So Wilfrid/Emma ended up  in OZ I presume.
Its too much of a coincidence that his likely Mother did also.

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 13:52 BST (UK) »
Hi again, Trish.

Wilfred (Willi in some documents) was one of seven children of John and Sarah: Ethel (1883), Walter (1885), Charles (1887), William/Willi (1889), Eddie (1893), Millie (1895), and Hilda (1898. John was a shoemaker according to successive census entries, and the children appear to have followed him into the trade (William is named as an eyeletter in the 1901 census). The confusion I have had with the family has been to differentiate between Walter and William. Sometimes the transcriptions are wrong or ambiguous; sometimes people leave out information (I have found Ancestry to be helpful, but a few people don't check their sources).

According to the 1911 census, Wilfred worked as an agricultural labourer. I have tracked down a little of the family's movements after that. They left England from London on July 31st 1912 aboard the "Norseman", which travelled to Melbourne via Brisbane, arriving some time in November. Walter is shown on the passenger list as being four years old. Wilfred and Emma had two more children in Australia. Wilfred appears to have been a lorry driver for much of his life here (I'm an Australian - sorry we won the Ashes with three cheats in the team).

Thanks again,
                    Peter

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Re: Wilfred Harry Berridge and Emma Wills 1907 and 1908
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 September 19 13:56 BST (UK) »
I'm a bit confused.

Not sure about your Rushden/Shoemaker info?

Last Census yes they are there. But Wilfred Snr was a Farm Labourer as per Shipping Records.
Emma born c 1888 Old Weston, Huntingdonshire.
1901 she is s 13 year old Servant to a Farmer there.

1891 Census
William Wills   25
Elizabeth Wills   25
Emma Wills   2
William John Wills 11 mths

WILLS, EMMA, Mothers mn   BURTON** 
GRO Reference: 1888  S Quarter in THRAPSTON  Volume 03B  Page 188
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