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Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« on: Friday 27 September 19 22:20 BST (UK) »
Hiya, I am currently researching my family history and was just wondering if anyone has info on James Hill and his family.

I already know that he was born in Worcestershire, married Louisa Sandford in 1887 and died in Bedwellty in Wales.

I have the names of most of his children that appear on the census's during this period but if anyone has any info specifically on Myra Edith Hill (b. 1890) or Ellen Hill (b.1888) that would be fantastic!

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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 September 19 22:32 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

Have you looked for marriages for Myra & Ellen?  www.freebmd.org.uk

When did the family move to Wales?

Were any if the children born in Wales or were they all b Worcs

What year did James die

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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 September 19 22:45 BST (UK) »
They are in Glamorgan in 1901.  Myra is shown as Edith but Ellen is not with them

In 1901 there is a son William Henry aged 11 b Worcs who is not shown on the 1891 entry
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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 September 19 22:46 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too.

Possible death for Ellen as Ellen Elizabeth Hill aged 8, Jun qtr 1896 Pontypridd.

Buried 4 May 1896 at St Mabon, Llanfabon, Glamorganshire. Abode: Mountain Ash.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 September 19 22:50 BST (UK) »
Ellen’s birth registration is indexed on the GRO Online as Ellen Eliza Hill, mother’s maiden name Landford [sic], Mar qtr 1888 Martley 6c 267.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 September 19 22:51 BST (UK) »
Marriage 1912 on freebmd in Pontypridd - Edith Hill to Charles William Bryer

An Edith Bryer died Uxbridge 1938 aged 49

IGNORE above. - wrong Edith as per 1939 register
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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 September 19 22:52 BST (UK) »
Also: William Henry Hill mmn Landford, Jun qtr 1889 Martley 6c 275.

Sandford/Landford would be easily confused by a transcriber.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 September 19 23:02 BST (UK) »
If you already know how many children this couple had - take a look at the 1911 entry for Louisa to compare the number of children born and number died

James died before 1911
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Re: Looking for info on James Hill and his many kids (1868-1908)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 September 19 04:03 BST (UK) »
There appears to have been 13 children and 3 died:

Ellen Eliza b.1888 died 1896
William Henry b.1889
Myra Edith b.1890
Francis George b.1892
Annie Louisa b.1894
Lily bc.1896 can't find birth registration
James b.1897
John Thomas b.1899 (names switched round on census)
Ethel Jane b.1900
Richard Idris b.1902, died 1902 (death as Richard Edward)
Percy Richard b.1903, died 1905
Emlyn Charles b.1905
Gladys bc.1909 can't find birth registration

James Hill baptised 2/7/1867 Grimley, son of Thomas and Elizabeth.

Thomas Hill married Elizabeth Cresswell 28/10/1856 Grimley.

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