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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #27 on: Monday 30 September 19 12:56 BST (UK) »
BARCLAY CARROL 1895   Birth registered   Dalziel
Barclay 5 in 1901 noted as BARTLEY age 16 in 1911 no Mary in family but Bartholomew and family are nearby.

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #28 on: Monday 30 September 19 13:07 BST (UK) »
My thinking is that Barclay is a cousin or uncle through her father and she went to live him at some point after or during 1939

Have you ruled out the death in 1949 Dalzeil

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #29 on: Monday 30 September 19 16:31 BST (UK) »
Mary, b 01.02.1905, Tradeston, Glasgow to George & Mary (nee Smith) m 21.05.1902, Cavan, Ireland……………..My Favourite, because this was the only one I could not rule out.

1911 Hutchesontown, Glasgow
GEORGE CARROLL 30 MARY 37 LIZZIE 8 MARY 6

It is possible this is George 1920 - 1935 but not 1940 the last valuation Roll on SP
GEORGE CARROLL   Tenant   HOUSE 8 PONTILAND SQUARE CRAIGNEUK WISHAW   DALZIEL   

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.


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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #30 on: Monday 30 September 19 16:47 BST (UK) »
Mary, b 01.02.1905, Tradeston, Glasgow to George & Mary (nee Smith) m 21.05.1902, Cavan, Ireland……………..My Favourite, because this was the only one I could not rule out.

1911 Hutchesontown, Glasgow
GEORGE CARROLL 30 MARY 37 LIZZIE 8 MARY 6

It is possible this is George 1920 - 1935 but not 1940 the last valuation Roll on SP
GEORGE CARROLL   Tenant   HOUSE 8 PONTILAND SQUARE CRAIGNEUK WISHAW   DALZIEL   

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Sorry Colin I'm going for No 2 (sounds like a game show)
See reply 11 why I think the 2 marriages are not Mary who was born in 1905
You found Barclay with his family in 1911 and Bartholomew and family close by although you say no Mary
Then Mary ends up living at the same address that Barclay is the tennant in 1940 in Dalzeil
And there is a death of a Mary Carroll no other surname in 1949 Dalzeil of the right age
what do you think

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #31 on: Monday 30 September 19 17:57 BST (UK) »
First post from George.
"Mary CARROLL was born somewhere in Scotland between 13.01.1905 and 12.01.1906. I have found 9 instances of that name in that period, so I need to eliminate 8 of them. The lady I seek was still a spinster in 1939".

So I do not think Mary was born in Dalzeil but it is clear she finished up staying there in 1940.

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #32 on: Monday 30 September 19 18:16 BST (UK) »
First post from George.
"Mary CARROLL was born somewhere in Scotland between 13.01.1905 and 12.01.1906. I have found 9 instances of that name in that period, so I need to eliminate 8 of them. The lady I seek was still a spinster in 1939".

So I do not think Mary was born in Dalzeil but it is clear she finished up staying there in 1940.

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Yes but I don't believe that either of the 2 marriages in 1926 and 1933 is Mary Carroll daughter of Bartholomew and Ann as possible deaths in 1967 and 1990 don't match age wise according to Scotland People index they were born c 1910 and 1913 respectively with a mother's MS McWilliams for the 1990 one

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 03 October 19 21:58 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for all your tremendous efforts. I am now back on line, so will try to assimilate all your researches tomorrow.

George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #34 on: Friday 04 October 19 16:36 BST (UK) »
Wendy

I've just acted on your suggestion re death in 1949 of MC in Dalziel. Unfortunately, not ours. Born in 1906, but must have been after 12th Jan. Parents were Joseph & Grace (nee Jackson)

George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Mary CARROLL
« Reply #35 on: Friday 04 October 19 17:11 BST (UK) »
I've searched 1939 - 1990 for the death of MC. There is nothing more in Dalziel, but altogether there are 11, viz

1.  Mary Purvis, 1939, age 43, College
2.  Mary, 1949, 43, Dalziel
3.  Mary Ann, 1963, 58, Aberdeen
4.  Mary, 1964, 59, Glasgow South
5.  Mary, 1967, 61, Kilpatrick
6.  Mary Jane, 1977, 71, Kilpatrick
7.  Mary O'Brien, 1980, 76, Leith
8.  Mary Rigali, 1981, 76, Glasgow Martha Street
9.  Mary Rowena, 1986, 81, Dumfries
10. Mary, 1986, 82, Newington
11. Mary, 1988, 82, Kilmarnock

It might be worth investing some credits in #4, but none of the others looks very promising. What do you think?

George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower