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1847 Birth Date
« on: Wednesday 02 October 19 21:46 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have an ancestor who seems to have been born in Monaghan in 1847, is there any way you can look up / see a birth record from that date?

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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 October 19 22:17 BST (UK) »
Birth registration only came to Ireland in 1864 so you need to find a baptism. You need their religion and an idea of where in Monaghan they were born.

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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 October 19 11:32 BST (UK) »
Hi, If you say his name I could search for you.
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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 October 19 17:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Maggsie,

That is very kind of you as I'm a bit lost with it.

I'm sure he would undoubtedly be Catholic.

His name is Edward Mohan / Moan and what I have is that he was married to Catherine McAree in Urbleshanny, Scotstown, Monaghan in 1889 when he was aged 42, so his birth date would be around 1847.

His residence on the wedding certificate is given as Tydavnet, Monaghan.

At some point they moved to Glasgow, Scotland where he died in 1912.

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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 October 19 17:36 BST (UK) »


RC Registers are online

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0319  Tydavnet



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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 October 19 18:00 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I was out this afternoon.
I searched a site to see if I could find him by name, no results.
I went to the Registers on line...……..Monaghan
1846, 1847 to March 1848.
The only Mohan I found was this, did he have a sister called Frances or a brother Francis?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632895#page/53/mode/1up
Going by the Civil Marriage record his father was Edward and at the time of the marriage 1889 he was still alive.
I searched for any Mohan with the father named as Edward, couldn't find any in the area.
I will searched 1845 tomorrow, ok
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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 October 19 10:23 BST (UK) »
I think I can see the Mohan in that link though I'm not too good at reading it, can you help me understand it?

The far left is the date (10th of something?)

The person being baptised is in the left column?, is that a town name underneath their name?

The middle column is the parents names?, though I don't think it looks like Edward & Catherine I don't know what those names are?

The right hand column is ?

Thanks for all your help.

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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 October 19 10:57 BST (UK) »
Hi, yes, very hard to read.
As I said this was the only Mohan I could find.
I looked at it again.
April 10th 1848 (the April is a squiggle above and 1848 is at the top of the page.)
Father Jacobus and Mother Maria
Sponsors translates as William and Teresa can not read the surname.
The place underneath Edward is Slacksgrove.
Now I just searched for that and got this...…
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=269447.0

Then this...……………
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Mohan+family+in+slacksgrove+ireland+&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=mohan+family+in+slacksgrove+&sc=0-28&sk=&cvid=64FB5331CEC546A18B30577FCAC7C195
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Re: 1847 Birth Date
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 October 19 11:55 BST (UK) »



Civil Reg Death results for moan of Monaghan from 1887 to 1915

Link  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ogl/


There is a possible for Father, Edward  ( PDF attached ) but not sufficient details to ID him.


You could try looking at females "of correct age group"  to see who registered them.... maybe Son edward or Daughter in Law  Catherine??



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