Harry Bradbury

[wivenhoe]

At reply#9, and the newspaper report of assault 1916, Harry would be the author of the information given about himself.  He describes himself as a man o'warsman. This would be a dated term in 1916, and possibly also at 1874 when any navy service would be behind him. It is not a class of vessel.

Military and naval service in those days had an understood standing in the community. You might think that a navy veteran would name the ship on which he served. 

If Harry was ever in the navy, I think he is embellishing his period of service.

On the birth certificate with Harry giving his birthplace as Parramatta....what exactly is recorded.....Parramatta...........Parramatta, Sydney.......Parramatta New South Wales?

[Kay Kitchen]

I believe he embellished a lot of things, including his name

[Kay Kitchen]

It’s recorded as Parramatta New South Wales.  I think that he was English (but where in England is another question) because his death certificate notes his birthplace as London so his kids probably grew up believing he came from London.  One Ancestry tree has him born in Russia but I think that may be a stretch.  There is someone born in NSW that could fit his father and maybe him but the Bridget Murphy in NSW would have been around 9 when Harry was born so quite possibly not her.

[majm]

It’s recorded as Parramatta New South Wales.  I think that he was English (but where in England is another question) because his death certificate notes his birthplace as London so his kids probably grew up believing he came from London.  One Ancestry tree has him born in Russia but I think that may be a stretch.  There is someone born in NSW that could fit his father and maybe him but the Bridget Murphy in NSW would have been around 9 when Harry was born so quite possibly not her.

Hi,

May I ask for some dates for the Bridget Murphy lass in NSW that  you are mentioning .... I have been researching NSW family history for errr... decades.   We are currently going in circles.  We need  data  please.

Also would you please share all the info that Harry provided when he gave his birthplace as Parramatta New South Wales.   It is easier to refer back to if it is typed up into the one post, as a transcription of the actual document.   You do not breach copyright if you type up from the document...

Most of the many NSW bdm certs in the mid to late 19th and into early 1900s would write NSW as:
N.S. Wales


Some of the handwriting is little more than scribble,  and even on the one entry, the clerks can provide contradictory spelling of quite simple words ... e.g. I have a farm laborer on an m.c. and his dad as agr labourer on the same  m.c. ... but it is unusual for a bridegroom to have a surname that does not reflect his at least one of his named parents on his m.c. and Harry's m.c. ought to be further investigated.   

Wivenhoe notes the image if that Qld 1874 m.c. is the civil record,  which is a transcribed record from the church register.  I have suggested you seek out the original church register .... how does Harry spell his surname when you view his actual Signature on that marriage register and how old and where born and parents names .... at least to confirm the info on that civil registration and to start to move forward in the quest.

JM

[wivenhoe]

If Harry BRADBURY arrives on the "St James" in Maryborough, and marries in Maryborough a few days later...........that suggests.......that his labour contract with the ship is terminated. If Harry was a deserter he would not stay in Maryborough to marry while the "St James" in port.

If Harry has signed on for the voyage from England, then to what extent is Queensland his intended destination.....eg....has he worked his passage to any Australian port, or specifically QLD.   

Does Harry have family in QLD  at 1874?  And he signed on to the ship as Harry Arthur BRADBURY.

Can you list all the information on the death certificate of Harry BRADBURY.

"...He was a bit of a ladies man. "  Where do you see evidence of this?

[wivenhoe]

Contact details for St Marys Church Ipswich -

https://brisbanecatholic.org.au/parishes-mass-times/parish/st-marys-ipswich/

You have birth records....dates.........places.....for BRADBURY children, births registered Ipswich.

You could contact the church and ask for baptism records for these children. These baptism records will be at the church or at a central church archives...probably Brisbane. The people at Ipswich will be able to tell you.

Baptism records will names godparents, who are often close relatives. If there are any BRADBURY or WILSHER relatives around, they might be the godparents. 

BDM QLD birth
1881   C2825   Frances Theresa   BRADBURY
parents Harry Arthur   / Sarah Mary WILSHER

Mackay Mercury and South Kennedy Advertiser 22 Dec 1877 p2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/169859030?
MARRIAGE. On the 19th December, at St. Patrick's Church, Mackay, by the Rev. P. M. BUCAS,
Charles Thomas REGAN, of Mackay, to Mary Anne, youngest daughter of the late Robert
BRADBURY, of Ipswich.

Bradbury is not a common name, and Ipswich, at that time, not a large city. So you might wonder if there is family in SE Queensland for your Harry BRADBURY.

 

[majm]

Queensland was not hived off from New South Wales until 1859, so I will mention that a Robert BRADBERRY and Catherine RYAN were married in 1853, and NSW BDM has this as Volume 99, line 363.  This was a Roman Catholic marriage, Moreton Bay, (Qld !)...    notice the spelling of Robert's surname.

Mary A's birth was registered in the IPSWICH district of NSW (ie prior to separation), and is available from NSW BDM. The index has it as BRADBURY.  #8186/1859.     I can see siblings for Mary A, under both BRADBERRY and BRADBURY and at Qld bdm and NSW bdm.   

JM

[Carann Bell]

Harry Bradbury is my 2x great grandfather.  I have a photo of Harry & Sarah Ann (nee Wilshire).  I just found these in my mother's papers as she passed away recently.  Happy to help with family history details. Regards Carol