Author Topic: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876  (Read 2186 times)

Offline TerryKing

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 14
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« on: Monday 07 October 19 12:03 BST (UK) »
Looking for the baptism record of the above, can anyone help with a lookup ?    Thanks, Terry King.

Offline Annette7

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,009
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 October 19 12:28 BST (UK) »
Can't find a baptism in online sources - his birth entry on GRO index shows his full name as Seth Edward Edwards, mmn Thomas, Mar.qtr.1876 Middlesbrough.

1881 Linthorpe, Yorkshire Census shows his parents as David and Eliza.

Annette
Scopes (One-Name Study - Worldwide)
Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline TerryKing

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 14
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:18 BST (UK) »
Annette,  Thanks for the info, although I cannot find a David Edwards married to an Eliza Thomas, only Eliza Davies.   

Offline glenclare

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 663
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 01:38 BST (UK) »
I cannot find the marriage of Eliza and David but I have managed to identify who Eliza is and where they are in 1871 if that would be of any help.


Offline rosie99

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 42,073
  • ALFIE 2009 - 2021 (Rosbercon Sky's the Limit)
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 08:01 BST (UK) »
I cannot find the marriage of Eliza and David but I have managed to identify who Eliza is and where they are in 1871 if that would be of any help.

It would help us if you gave the details  ;D
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,885
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 08:26 BST (UK) »
1891 census states David and Eliza are both born Wales - David aged 43 and Eliza aged 48 ..so did they marry in WALES ?
IF Seth is the first born there is this - 11th June 1875 in Corwen - David Edwards to Elizabeth Catherine Jones - shot in the dark
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

Offline Jebber

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,386
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 09:01 BST (UK) »
There is also the possibility that Eliza had been married previously to someone named Davies. That could account for the difference between the names THOMAS and DAVIES.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

Offline TerryKing

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 14
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 10:29 BST (UK) »
I Hope all responders get this reply, I am not an expert on RootsChat.
 
Glenclare - Please provide details of the 1871 census as I could not find it, mainly due to there being so many Eliza Davies.
 
Garstonite - ref 1891 census. this does not show all the children, the 1881 census shows Seth and David J plus Catherine, born 1866 in Wales and Lilia born 1871 in West Hartlepool.
So must have married in Wales sometime before 1886.
Don't think the Jones marriage fits anything at the moment.
 
Jeeber - The second marriage is a possibility, I will check that out.

                      Many thanks to all,   Terry.

Offline glenclare

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 663
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Baptism of Seth Edwards In Middlesbrough in 1876
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 October 19 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Terry
I didn't want to overload you with details if you already have them
I followed one of David and Eliza's children, Lilia.

She appears in this household
RG12/4019/42 p19
She is listed as niece and is actually the niece of Miriam (mistranscribed) Robertson formerly Freeman nee Thomas

Then I followed Miriam back through the census until
1851 Wales census
John Thomas 35
Sarah Thomas 38
John Thomas 12
William Thomas 10
Elizabeth Thomas 7
Miriam Thomas 5
Seth Thomas 3  (interesting name)
HO107/2448/718 p 10

So Elizabeth Thomas born Bedwellty 1844
Following her forward with that info

1861 Wales
RG9/4005/39 p7
Elizabeth still at home, age 17, with widowed mother Sarah

1871 England census RG10/4926/37 p 12
Witton Park, Durham
Elizabeth Edwards age 27 b Merthyr-Tydfil Glamorgan Wales

David Edwards 24
Elizabeth Edwards 27
Marine Edwards 4 - actually badly written and transcribed Catherine, born Wales
John Edwards 5/12 born witton park (dies shortly after)

Hope this helps
Glen