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brick wall for BAMFORD
« on: Monday 07 October 19 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hello anyone who can give guidance with research after 8 years of being stuck.

I have an Elizabeth Bamford in Tipton Staffordshire Uk who gave birth to 
Esther Elizabeth Ann Bamford on 22 Aug 1864 no father

Esther Elizabeth Ann Bamford is baptized in same parish on 1 Jan 1865  - father now given first name Samuel but his name is barred and he is not given a profession.

Then Esther disappears until her wedding to a boatman William Johnson Middlewich, Cheshire in 1864.  She has now become Esther Ann BANFORD and her father is Henry BANFORD. 
In family history she was given away and raised by the Williams family.   A lot of family worked the canals around Staffordshire.  Would love to know more about her mother Elizabeth .  Know lots about Esther after her marriage but nothing before ..
Any ideas gratefully received. Many thanks

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:13 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat...

1861
Elizabeth is living wither her Uncle...born West Bromwich and living in Tipton

Joseph Bamford....Head   39 Butcher
Hannah Banford   45 Wife
Elizabeth Bamford...Daughter   10
Unice Bamford...Sister married   30
Thomas Bamford...Son   8
William Bamford...Son   6
Elizabeth Bamford...Niece   18  Servant

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:19 BST (UK) »
well thank you for your super reactive info!

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:24 BST (UK) »
1851:

Tipton

Sidney Bamford   27...Forge Man
Esther Bamford Forge Man's wife   27
Jane Bamford..Daughter   9
Elizabeth Bamford... Daughter   7 Born Wednesbury
Viner Bamford... Daughter 3

Census return very faint

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:30 BST (UK) »
there are quite a few Elizabeth/Eliza Bamfords and its trying to decide which is the right one...

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:34 BST (UK) »
I can't find her in 1871 census so I think this could be her

Elizabeth Bamford
Marriage Age:   23
Event Type:   Marriage
Birth Year:   abt 1844
Marriage Date:   29 Jan 1867
Marriage Place:   Almondbury, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears:   Almondbury, All Hallows
Father:   William Bamford
Spouse:   William Harttey

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 October 19 16:35 BST (UK) »
Quote from: mme marple on Monday 07 October 19 16:30 BST (UK)
there are quite a few Elizabeth/Eliza Bamfords and its trying to decide which is the right one...

Too much of a coincidence that her Mother is called Esther..so I think it a good fit.
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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 October 19 17:05 BST (UK) »
I too had found Esther and Sidney and also worked on the assumption that Esther was a family name but only now you've suggested the same thing do I feel like celebrating.
I know its a stupid next question but I suppose that means all the other Eliz Bamfords are other people..

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Re: brick wall for BAMFORD
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 October 19 17:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

You may want to amend the marriage date to 1884

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Then Esther disappears until her wedding to a boatman William Johnson Middlewich, Cheshire in 1864.  She has now become Esther Ann BANFORD and her father is Henry BANFORD



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