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Offline Eithne Donnelly Mcilwaine

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Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« on: Thursday 10 October 19 11:27 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone, I am a newbie so hope i am doing this correctly by posting here!

Would anyone be able to help me trace please?

Lilian Mcilwaine from N Ireland we believe she may have married in Toronto on 30 October 1927 to Darnley OR (Darnell) Luther Holder
Lilian was described as a 24 year old Presbyterian spinster, a domestic, place of birth Ireland,

The UK Outward passenger lists show a Lilian McIlwaine embarking at Belfast for Quebec on 20 August 1927, her age is a bit out (25), she is recorded as a domestic, address given as 16 London Road Belfast  :)


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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 October 19 11:48 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 October 19 12:25 BST (UK) »
There was a Darnley Holder, b. 1894, died in Jamaica, 2nd Dec 1926. Possible relative?

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 October 19 12:31 BST (UK) »
Confirmation of the marriage - Darnley Luther Holder born 1894 Barbaos West Indies. Aged 33 years.
Marriage Date:   30 Oct 1927 - Marriage Place York, Ontario, Canada
Father Edward Holder - Mother Dorcas Welch - Spouse Lilian Mc Ilwaine.
Lillian parents - James Mcilwaine
Father - James Mcilwaine - Mother's Name Margret Lynass
 

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 October 19 12:35 BST (UK) »

There was a Darnley Holder, b. 1894, died in Jamaica, 2nd Dec 1926. Possible relative?


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Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 October 19 12:41 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your help, i really appreciate it..

Is there any information regarding family trees or children born?  :)

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 October 19 13:56 BST (UK) »
Is there any information regarding family trees?  :)

Cannot see anyone called Darnley Holder, 1894, Barbados, in any tree on Ancestry.

Have you got Lilian in the 1911 census, for her age, or any further information.

(Sorry, KG, the site is down at moment so do not know what you posted on that link)

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 October 19 15:18 BST (UK) »
Hi, many thanks for your help  :)

1901 census Residents of a house 32 in Drumgor (Kernan, Armagh)
her father had 2 wives so she has stepsisters/brothers

Surname   Forename           Age   Sex         Relation to head   Religion
Magowan   James           43   Male          Head of Family   Presbyterian
Magowan   Eliza                   27   Female   Wife                   Presbyterian
Magowan   Eliza Jane           21   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Samuel           20   Male           Son                   Presbyterian
Magowan   John Alfred   17   Male           Son                   Presbyterian
Magowan   Charlotte Anna   15   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   May Evelen   10   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Lilian           4   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Annie              Female   Daughter           Presbyterian

1911 census - Residents of house 35 in Corcreeny (Waringstown, Down)
her father had 2 wives so she has stepsisters

Surname   Forename   Age   Sex      Relation to head   Religion
Magowan   James   54   Male       Head of Family   Presbyterian
Magowan   Eliza           39   Female   Wife                   Presbyterian
Magowan   Edith   23   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Mary           20   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Lilian   14   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Annie   10   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   Sarah   9   Female   Daughter           Presbyterian
Magowan   James   7   Male            Son

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Re: Darnell Luther Holder + Lillian Mcilwaine
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 October 19 15:25 BST (UK) »
Magowan ??

Nothing showing on Canada Voters Lists for Darnley Holder and Lillian after the marriage.
There is a census of the praries for 1926 (Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan) Otherwise the latest for Canada is 1921.  The marriage missed both of those. Canada does not have a BMD index as does the UK. We would normally rely on Voters Lists/Obituaries/Newspapers etc to try and locate someone.
Nothing showing for this couple that I can see.

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