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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 October 19 11:29 BST (UK) »
All these Shevlanes are in Belmullet, Co. Mayo. Including this Richard on 1901 census.

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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 October 19 12:09 BST (UK) »
Are these your family in Briska -not Belmullet

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Glenco/Briska/1579497/

There is also this family in Briska
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Glenco/Briska/1579498/

And this one
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Glenco/Briska/1579499/

There is a 60yr old Richard in Muingingaun but none in Belmullet.

Can you post the link please.
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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 October 19 12:12 BST (UK) »
This is Richard of Muingingaun in 1911 aged 72 yrs.
Do you mean this one?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Glenamoy/Muingingaun/710113/
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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 October 19 12:30 BST (UK) »
All these Shevlanes are in Belmullet, Co. Mayo. Including this Richard on 1901 census.


He's 29 years Married in 1911 so you have probably checked for Marriage to see who is father was. What address was on Cert?




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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 13 October 19 12:31 BST (UK) »


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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 October 19 14:01 BST (UK) »
My ancestor John Shevlane was born in Briska, though I always thought that was part of Belmullet? In any case, how does the elder Richard relate do you think? I am struggling to find the ancestors farther back than John Shevlane Snr. and Biddy Mills. Thanks

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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 13 October 19 14:07 BST (UK) »
I never found Richard's marriage certificate. I did find one for Catherine Shevlane and John Cuffe, I know their descendants kept in touch with my family as cousins, however it is not certain how her Catherine's father relates to John Shevlane who married Biddy Mills. Her father was Michael Shevlane, still living at time of her marriage in 1882. That puts his birth probably between 1820-1842. This suggests probably, given ages, that he was brother to John Shevlane and maybe to Richard Shevlane if naming pattern is to be believed. The question is whether we can find the generation further back? Thanks.

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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 13 October 19 14:23 BST (UK) »
Heywood, I don't recognise those families but probably cousins of some sort. If Catherine, wife of John Cuffe, is indeed this closely related it suggests a move back and forth from Shragh which is where John Shevlane and Bridget Murphy set up home. I think Briska is simply another Belmullet township, not far from the others.

Here is Richard born c.1828, and again the name seems so rare that he seems to me to be a certain relation of some kind - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Glenamoy/Muingingaun/710113/

There is also this Richard, but much younger and perhaps more distantly connected - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Sheskin/Glencullin_Upper/707884/

1901 censuses too:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Glenamoy/Muingingaun/1581039/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Sheskin/Glencullin_Upper/1579981/

As to Richard son of John Shevlane and Biddy Mills, he seems not to appear on census records. I don't know why, and he seems to have died in 1949 from grave records. Born in 1865.

Noting the birth records for Patrick Shevlane (son of John Shevlane and Bridget Murphy) we see his mother at both his birth but also at the birth of another Patrick Shevlane that same year, son of Edward "Ned" Shevlane and Sabina Shevlane - in same township. We do know Bridget Murphy was a midwife, nurse and undertaker, but it seems likely Ned and John related somehow too?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02069/1790171.pdf

As yet no luck in even finding census records in 1901 for John Shevlane and Bridget Murphy let alone John Shevlane and Biddy Mills - who may have died by then. In other words, the whole family disappears from view in 1901. Edward Shevlane's son Patrick does show up with his uncle Manus Shevlane and aunt Maggie. But that's all I can find.

1911 is better for records and we have this census - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Glencastle/Srah/707334/. The other Patrick, son of Ned Shevlane is now with his maternal grandparents also - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Rathill/Tullaghanbaun/707822/.

This is all I can find at the moment!

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Re: Shevlane Origins
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 13 October 19 14:36 BST (UK) »
I am confused now but that’s not unusual. ;)

Ages do vary in censuses but the Richard you refer to is 72yrs in 1911 which would give a birth year of 1839.
In 1901 (the one you mention as born c1828) he is 60 yrs o,d - b abt 1840.

As far as I can see, Briska is not a Belmullet township although there are Shevelin (variations) around that part of Mayo. Briska is closer to Bangor Erris.

I have visited the area but I am sure that someone with better knowledge could help.

If the Briska families are not yours, where is your family in 1901? - Sorry, just read your message again. Back on track, I think.
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