gething.

[apollonia]

Thanks,
 I 'll try that.

[CaroleW]

The Florence Gething b Dec qtr 1889 was illegitimate so her marriage cert will probably not help unless any father shown has a different surname than Gething

[Pennines]

In that case - do any of the Florence/Florrie Gethings you found in 1901/1911 Apollonia - show her with just a mother? Or is she with a family and shown as step-daughter?

Carole - did you find a baptism to know she was illegitimate please?

[CaroleW]

Using the freebmd entry for the 1889 birth entry  I used GRO online and no mmn shown

There is an 1891 entry for a 1yr old Florrie Gething - parents John & Emma.   They are living in the Cannock RD which is the same as the 1889 birth reg.  They have a 3yr old dtr Minnie & GRO online shows mmn as Walklate

There is a March qtr 1890 birth for Florry Gething mmn Walklate.  Florry was b 30.11.1889

Florence birth reg March qtr 1890 without a mmn is on the 1939 register.  See birthdate posted above from Ancestry entry and you have the answer re parentage

If she is not found under Gething 1891-1911 you need to look for a female Gething marriage from Dec qtr 1889 onwards then check census entries to see if there is a daughter Florence born before the marriage

Alternatively - buy a copy of the birth cert to get her mothers christian name

[Pennines]

Thank you Carole -- it's complicated!

I have looked for a marriage between a Gething and a Walklate without success. Of course, the mother may have been married before - so her  surname at marriage would not be the same as her maiden name at the registration of a child.

In addition BOTH surnames could easily be mistranscribed.

I am stuck! I agree with your suggestion of obtaining the birth cert of the child registered at the correct time as per birth date in 1939.

[CaroleW]

The marriage was 1887.  Emma Elizabeth Walklate and John Gethin (misspelt)

I'm sure that illegitimate birth is the correct one so once you have the  birth cert you will have her mothers name

[Pennines]

I had looked on The Genealogist for that marriage - as you can search for a  name with the first name of a spouse and normally up it will pop -- In this case, no matter how I did it (and I did it 'phonetically') -- no results over this period.

Both surnames must be mis-spelt on that site. Well found Carole.

[CaroleW]

I initially tried finding it as Gething with spouse christian name Emma - zilch

Thankfully Emma had an unusual surname and freebmd had it transcribed correctly.

I think Florence's marriage cert would be a waste of money as it will either show no father or she will have made one up for "respectability" purposes. 

When you get the birth cert - update this post so we can try and find her in the censuses

[apollonia]

Thank you so much for your great efforts. I have been unable to follow up these suggestions at the moment. I will post on here when I eventually discover anything else. Thank you so much once again.