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Different Names on Documents
« on: Tuesday 15 October 19 12:55 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I posted on here a few years ago and got some really useful information, I then got a bit stuck and did very little to my tree. The reason I got stuck was I had a couple of documents that seemed to contradict each other with regards to a forename of someone.

What I have is a marriage certificate and I have the grooms fathers name as John Baker (it is the grooms side I am looking to go further back on and I know this document to be for the person I am looking to go back further on)

I then got some information on here and purchased a birth certificate of the groom, the year of birth was good, the location was in London which I expected but this had the fathers name as Wallis Baker.

Is this normal as I am worried I have the wrong birth certificate?

It does get a little complicated as well as the groom who I am looking to go back on was born in 1858 and does show up on a census on 1861 but it looks like he was "fostered" from a very young age and was living with a different family so there is no guarantee that he was originally from London.

I suppose my questions are;

Did names differ often on different certificates?

Were children housed in different locations?

Is there anything else i can do? I thought by having the birth certificate and therefore mothers maiden name it would help but as I am not 100% I have purchased the right certificate I am at a loss.


Many thanks for reading this rambling post.

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Re: Different Names on Documents
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 13:03 BST (UK) »
It was a common practice for illegitimate children to make up a fathers name when they married so they appeared “respectable”. If you have census entries for  him prior to marriage that may be evident.

Wallis is a very distinctive christian name. No marriage for a Wallis/Wallace Baker prior to 1858

What was the mothers christian name and maiden name on the birth cert you bought?  What was Wallis Bakers occupation

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Re: Different Names on Documents
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 13:11 BST (UK) »
The groom's name would also help.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

The Grooms name is Frederick Baker.

I will put together in this thread all the information I have :)


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 13:24 BST (UK) »
Two thoughts.
Someone not raised by their parents, may not have known their father's true name, and just offered their best guess when asked.

A quick search of 'Wallis Baker' on Ancestry throws up some who turn out to be mistranscribed 'Walter'.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 13:42 BST (UK) »
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)