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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 03 November 19 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: LEMB on Saturday 02 November 19 16:26 GMT (UK)
My nana is from an Oakes family and I have a John Oakes who had a son called Ralph in approx. 1702 - i'm wondering if we could be researching the same people. :)

is it in OVER , Cheshire - St Chads church - if so - yes - it is the same family  :)
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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 January 20 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: garstonite on Sunday 03 November 19 06:43 GMT (UK)
Quote from: LEMB on Saturday 02 November 19 16:26 GMT (UK)
My nana is from an Oakes family and I have a John Oakes who had a son called Ralph in approx. 1702 - i'm wondering if we could be researching the same people. :)

is it in OVER , Cheshire - St Chads church - if so - yes - it is the same family  :)

Yes! that is where they are all from! :D I have thousands of ancestors on my tree now from the Oakes side. Please feel free to msg me anytime if you want/need any information! :)

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 05:45 GMT (UK) »
Ralph Oakes b 1702 - married Mary Holland b 1704 - had a son Ralph Oakes b 1727..... if they are in your tree - did Ralph b 1727 have any siblings please ?
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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Garstonite, coincidentally I have been researching a branch of my family in Backford and am also related to the Oakes family.

Thomas Humphries and Elizabeth Oakes of Backford are my 6x great grandparents. Elizabeth was the daughter of Ralph Oakes Jr and Mary Trelfa I believe, and Ralph Jr was the son of Ralph Oakes Sr and Mary Holland.

Hello 8th cousin! 😁
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello Cuz   ...lol ...do you have Ralph and Mary Trelfas 13 children ?? - I have them ,,,, have you been to Backford ?  I went around 8 years ago .
Ralph and Mary ( Holland ) - I only have Ralph b 1727 - do you have any siblings for Ralph - I presume Ralph and Mary Holland had more children ?
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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: garstonite on Wednesday 15 January 20 08:55 GMT (UK)
Hello Cuz   ...lol ...do you have Ralph and Mary Trelfas 13 children ?? - I have them ,,,, have you been to Backford ?  I went around 8 years ago .
Ralph and Mary ( Holland ) - I only have Ralph b 1727 - do you have any siblings for Ralph - I presume Ralph and Mary Holland had more children ?

Siblings of Ralph Oakes Jr, I have them as:

Hannah 1729
Mary 1732
John 1734
Martha 1736

All born in Over parish.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Ralph and Mary Trelfa seem to have many children. All of them up to Elizabeth were born in Middlewich, rest in Backford:

William 1758
John 1760
Thomas 1761
Ralph 1764
Joseph 1765
Mary 1767
Richard 1770
Hannah 1772
Samuel 1774
Elizabeth 1776
Peter 1779
Daniel 1782

Still not sure why they moved from Middlewich to Backford though, and whether any stay in Middlewich.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 09:05 GMT (UK) »
I've never been to Backford but I don't live very far. I only live in Chester so if there's any graves or houses to see belonging to the family I will definitely go and have a look.
North West, North Wales and Isle of Man:

Ward, Campbell, Cowin, Cowell, Parry, Fryer, Davies, Hughes, Briscoe, Jones, Spencer, Brownbill, Crowfoot, Nield, Randles, Youde

Gozo, Malta:

Apap / De Apapis, Camilleri, Grech, Muscat, Micallef, Custo, De Nasi

Angus, Scotland:

Ormond, Salmond, Cook, MacDonald

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 15 January 20 09:10 GMT (UK) »
thanks for Ralphs siblings - didn't have them - and I have the same children as you for Ralph and Mary Trelfa ...cheers - got to go out now but will keep in touch    :)
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