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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 October 19 09:15 BST (UK) »
I was going to ask you where you found John Oakes' birth year of 1675.  I can't seem to see one in the Cheshire registers available on FindMyPast.
my familytree notes have John Oakes - death 13th November 1722 St Chads Over aged 47   - so I presume I took 47 from 1722 - IGI I presume ...JUST CHECKED ON MY TREE - i DON'T HAVE HIS BIRTH PLACE DOWN - ONLY HIS DEATH - so - he might not have been born in Cheshire ???  apologies - for some reason I thought he was born in Over  :-[ :-[
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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 October 19 09:20 BST (UK) »
I hate to say this, but neither the parish register nor the BT give an indication of age on the 1722 burial.

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 October 19 09:27 BST (UK) »
Re the marriage of John Oakes to Elen Hatton - fs has a burial (with image) for an Ellen Oakes wife of John Oakes husbandman of Swanlow and daughter which took place in Over in August 1700. This raises the question, were there two John Oakes or was John married twice and actually born earlier than you think?

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 October 19 09:35 BST (UK) »
Emeltom / Bumble
I tend to think Emeltom might have this cracked - John married twice - and had Richard b 1688 and Margaret b 1689 with Ellin - Ellin died and then he married Hannah and had Ralph - so John is born earlier than 1675 .... as he married Ellin in 1685 - in Middlewich - wher I have lots of Oakes family
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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 October 19 10:27 BST (UK) »
You may possibly be missing some children from the marriage to Ellin. The last one you have baptised 1689 and Eliian, along with an unnamed daughter (possibly newborn) was buried 11 years later 1700 - no other children in those 11 years?

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 October 19 10:36 BST (UK) »
Couple of possible baptisms

1 April 1658 Church Minshull son of John
16 November 1663 Sandbach son of Richard.

Church Minshull is about 3 miles from Over and Sandbach about 8.

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 October 19 10:44 BST (UK) »
Possible marriages

John Okes/Maria Kellsoe 9 February 1656 Over
Richards Oakes/Maria Minshull 22 October 1661 Sandbach

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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 October 19 08:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much - sorry for delay but I work Sat and Sundays  :) :)
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Re: todays challenge John Oakes 1675 - 1722 St Chads ,Over
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 02 November 19 16:26 GMT (UK) »
My nana is from an Oakes family and I have a John Oakes who had a son called Ralph in approx. 1702 - i'm wondering if we could be researching the same people. :)