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Re: George Everill
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 October 19 20:39 BST (UK) »

That fits  - have looked again at the Police Gazette and it was 14 in gold and silver he was accused of taking

Yes, and then in 1882 he was arrested once again for attempting to defraud a company of which he worked for as a commission agent. This offence was approximately 1 worth of money i do believe. For this he was sented for 12 months hard labour in the Nottingham Gaol. Then he was released and became the father to his Third child, who is Aunt Jessie Everill.

Upon the birth of his Fourth Child (1886), Uncle Frank his occupation at the baptism was a Commission agent, I assume for a different company. He is missing from the census in 1891 and all consequent censuses. I am wondering whether he committed another crime which meant he was deported to another country? I do not know how it all worked in those days and I don't know how many times you could be sent into prison before more serious action was taken on the person.
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Re: George Everill
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 October 19 21:52 BST (UK) »
There was no transportation for felons by the 1880s/90s. I suspect it more likely he's either back in prison, or has left his family and may be under an assumed/changed identity

Have found a newspaper report for the 1880 case - he was a clerk for the GNR and stole the wages of various employees he was supposed to pay. He pleaded guilty to stealing the watch

The 1882 case was related to his work as an agent selling tombstones etc. He put in a number of orders to the masons who employed him and was paid commission, but the putative customers denied placing said orders

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 October 19 03:08 BST (UK) »
In an effort to try and trace him I was trying to confirm his birthplace - it wasn't Birmingham!  In fact it's somewhat confusing as his birth is registered March quarter 1853 but in West Bromwich Regn. District (Staffordshire) as George William Everill Bennett (not Everard), his baptism took place 1/5/1853 at Twyning, Gloucestershire as George William Bennett, son of Elizabeth Jane Bennett and unnamed Everill and 1861 census states he was born Oldbury, Gloucestershire!!  77 miles between his stated birthplace in Gloucestershire and West Bromwich where he was registered.

Thus it makes trying to find him in census after 1881 with not only a probable alias, and not knowing what birthplace would be given, even more difficult.

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Re: George Everill
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 October 19 17:25 BST (UK) »
Have found a newspaper report for the 1880 case - he was a clerk for the GNR

The baptism of Mary Elizabeth 8 Aug 1880 in Bingham says the father was a labourer, likewise the baptism of Harry Bentley 22 Feb 1882 also in Bingham.
The baptisms in Nottingham, St Ann 5 July 1886 Frank Herbert father was a commission agent ( as already been noted) Jessie Isabelle 2 Nov 1884 father a gardener abode 32 Sycamore Rd.
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 October 19 18:35 BST (UK) »
He was a GNR employee when the offence was committed in 1879 - I suspect he'd been sacked by the time it came to court and when Mary Elizabeth was baptised in 1880 (hence the labouring/manual work)

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 22 October 19 08:23 BST (UK) »
In an effort to try and trace him I was trying to confirm his birthplace - it wasn't Birmingham!  In fact it's somewhat confusing as his birth is registered March quarter 1853 but in West Bromwich Regn. District (Staffordshire) as George William Everill Bennett (not Everard), his baptism took place 1/5/1853 at Twyning, Gloucestershire as George William Bennett, son of Elizabeth Jane Bennett and unnamed Everill and 1861 census states he was born Oldbury, Gloucestershire!!  77 miles between his stated birthplace in Gloucestershire and West Bromwich where he was registered.

Thus it makes trying to find him in census after 1881 with not only a probable alias, and not knowing what birthplace would be given, even more difficult.

Annette

Okay so the reason for his baptism in Twyning would probably be because his mother was born there. Maybe because his parents wern't married at the time and his father being in the Birmingham Police Force she baptised him in her home time to avoid creating a bad reputation for George Snr. By the time we get too 1871 where he would have been approximately 18 years old his mother has remarried after the death of the father and they had seemingly moved to Staffordshire / Gloucestershire as the censuses keep bouncing back and forth from those two Counties. So, not only do we have several probably alias' he went by but possible 2 - 3 counties he could state he being born in. Typical!

Have found a newspaper report for the 1880 case - he was a clerk for the GNR

The baptism of Mary Elizabeth 8 Aug 1880 in Bingham says the father was a labourer, likewise the baptism of Harry Bentley 22 Feb 1882 also in Bingham.
The baptisms in Nottingham, St Ann 5 July 1886 Frank Herbert father was a commission agent ( as already been noted) Jessie Isabelle 2 Nov 1884 father a gardener abode 32 Sycamore Rd.

He was a GNR employee when the offence was committed in 1879 - I suspect he'd been sacked by the time it came to court and when Mary Elizabeth was baptised in 1880 (hence the labouring/manual work)

There was no transportation for felons by the 1880s/90s. I suspect it more likely he's either back in prison, or has left his family and maybe under an assumed/changed identity

Have found a newspaper report for the 1880 case - he was a clerk for the GNR and stole the wages of various employees he was supposed to pay. He pleaded guilty to stealing the watch

The 1882 case was related to his work as an agent selling tombstones etc. He put in a number of orders to the masons who employed him and was paid commission, but the putative customers denied placing said orders

That does match the info I already have, so at least you have helped me confirm that this is all correct. It helps as with others looking up it helps clear my head and know what is 100% correct and what may not be as this man is being particularly difficult to trace! but then again, I suppose that is what he wanted.
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