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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #153 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
The marriage has come up before.
This is him in 1891:
RG12; Piece: 2367; Folio: 75; Page: 14
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #154 on: Thursday 15 October 20 14:39 BST (UK) »
I notice his birth is registered as Maurice Henry Hale (without the S).
His mother being Alice Morris.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #155 on: Thursday 15 October 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
I noted that as well, Jim.
I still havenít located a census entry after 1901 or a death/burial entry for him given any of these variations.
I assume Harry Rundle provided the information on Minnieís death cert. This infers that Harry Hales is deceased; I wonder whether this was actually the case. I was surprised at the detail he gave about Harry Hales; he seems to have known a fair bit about him. I thought Harry Rundleís take on his counterpart would be more offhand & less detailed.
For once I felt a bit sorry for my great-grandfather, and then thereís Minnie with the pain of gallstones coupled with TB and 5 children aged 2-14.

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #156 on: Thursday 15 October 20 22:22 BST (UK) »
I thought the same about Harry's knowledge about Harry Hales but with all
the deception that went on it's difficult to know if any of it is true.
I haven't been able to find a death either.
Maybe he moved out of the County or even the Country.
Harry's mother Alice moved out in the 1880's & left father Frederick with the 2 kids, Fred Jr. & Harry.
He took up with a Mary Roe & had a son George in 1887.
Fred Sr. died in 1893 & Fred Jr. joined the R.Warwicks in 1896.
Mother Alice is in lodgings in 1901 & living with her sister & B in L in 1911.
George is in lodgings in 1911.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #157 on: Friday 16 October 20 14:21 BST (UK) »
I agree with you, Jim; the continual deceit leads us to question anything thatís said or done.
Also about Harry Halesí final destination; emigration is a definite possibility.
Thanks for the further info on the Hales family. I wasnít familiar with all of that.

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #158 on: Saturday 17 October 20 11:56 BST (UK) »
Having followed up your links to Alice Hale(s) on the 1901 & 1911 censuses, Jim, I noticed thereís also, in Outgoing Passenger Lists, a 67 year old Miss Alice Hale, widow, leaving Liverpool bound for Halifax on 12th June 1920. Is this the same person, going to Canada to be with other family members, Frederick(?) or even Harry?

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #159 on: Saturday 17 October 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
Looks quite possible. She only had 2 sons Fred & Harry.
There'a also a death in 1937 for an Alice Hale aged 84 which also could be her.
Unfortunately there are 2 Alice Hales b. c. 1853/4 in B'ham.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #160 on: Monday 29 March 21 09:17 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Minnie Eva Inchley is the great aunt of my wife. Recently we started to look at this part of the family tree with great fascination and the mystery of Harry Rundle/Hales. I hope to have more to add on this person/s soon. In the mean time I read about the letters from Alice Maud Rundle to the Army dated 1915-1919.

Question: Are these letters available in the public domain, or are they private?

It would be a great help if these letters could be viewed in our quest.

Thankyou

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #161 on: Monday 29 March 21 14:10 BST (UK) »
I'm new to rootschat having only just discovered your posts today. My interest is in Harry Rundle and Minnie Eva Hales nee Inchley who are the parents of Joseph John Rundle born at 2 Nora Avenue, Fulham Road, Sparkhill Birmingham England on 17 June 1921 and Stanley Maurice Rundle Hales, also born at 2 Nora Avenue, on 9 January 1917. Joseph came to Australia in 1934 at the tender age of 12 as a child migrant under the British Government's "Child Emigration Society" scheme. He was brought out by the Fairbridge Society and sent to the Fairbridge Farm School at Pinjarra in Western Australia where he spent the next four years being schooled and trained in all aspects of farming and agriculture in general. He left the school when he turned 15 and took up employment at a number of very large cattle and sheep stations throughout Western Australia over the ensuring years until the outbreak of WW2 when he enlisted in the Aust. armed forces in 1942. However, he never got to see active service due to medical problems and was discharged in 1945. He married in November 1942 to Nell Swinbourne, daughter of John Foster Swinbourne and Grace Dodds Paterson and went on to have seven children - four girls and three boys. He married again in 1965 and had two more children - a boy and girl. He died on 15 February 1984 from chronic renal failure and is buried in the general cemetery at Casino NSW.