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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #153 on: Wednesday 14 October 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
The marriage has come up before.
This is him in 1891:
RG12; Piece: 2367; Folio: 75; Page: 14
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #154 on: Thursday 15 October 20 14:39 BST (UK) »
I notice his birth is registered as Maurice Henry Hale (without the S).
His mother being Alice Morris.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #155 on: Thursday 15 October 20 21:30 BST (UK) »
I noted that as well, Jim.
I still havenít located a census entry after 1901 or a death/burial entry for him given any of these variations.
I assume Harry Rundle provided the information on Minnieís death cert. This infers that Harry Hales is deceased; I wonder whether this was actually the case. I was surprised at the detail he gave about Harry Hales; he seems to have known a fair bit about him. I thought Harry Rundleís take on his counterpart would be more offhand & less detailed.
For once I felt a bit sorry for my great-grandfather, and then thereís Minnie with the pain of gallstones coupled with TB and 5 children aged 2-14.


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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #156 on: Thursday 15 October 20 22:22 BST (UK) »
I thought the same about Harry's knowledge about Harry Hales but with all
the deception that went on it's difficult to know if any of it is true.
I haven't been able to find a death either.
Maybe he moved out of the County or even the Country.
Harry's mother Alice moved out in the 1880's & left father Frederick with the 2 kids, Fred Jr. & Harry.
He took up with a Mary Roe & had a son George in 1887.
Fred Sr. died in 1893 & Fred Jr. joined the R.Warwicks in 1896.
Mother Alice is in lodgings in 1901 & living with her sister & B in L in 1911.
George is in lodgings in 1911.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #157 on: Friday 16 October 20 14:21 BST (UK) »
I agree with you, Jim; the continual deceit leads us to question anything thatís said or done.
Also about Harry Halesí final destination; emigration is a definite possibility.
Thanks for the further info on the Hales family. I wasnít familiar with all of that.

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #158 on: Saturday 17 October 20 11:56 BST (UK) »
Having followed up your links to Alice Hale(s) on the 1901 & 1911 censuses, Jim, I noticed thereís also, in Outgoing Passenger Lists, a 67 year old Miss Alice Hale, widow, leaving Liverpool bound for Halifax on 12th June 1920. Is this the same person, going to Canada to be with other family members, Frederick(?) or even Harry?

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Re: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK
« Reply #159 on: Saturday 17 October 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
Looks quite possible. She only had 2 sons Fred & Harry.
There'a also a death in 1937 for an Alice Hale aged 84 which also could be her.
Unfortunately there are 2 Alice Hales b. c. 1853/4 in B'ham.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/