Author Topic: Harry RUNDLE, British Army Soldier, born 1874, Luton, Bedfordshire UK  (Read 10896 times)

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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 20 October 19 12:21 BST (UK) »
Beatrice Mallett is not married to your Harry.  Her husband Henry /Harry is a blacksmith born in Cornwall and appears to have employment abroad.

ADDED Harry & Beatrice appear on the 1922 electoral register for Helston Road, Penryn

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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 20 October 19 12:27 BST (UK) »
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Is it possible that Harry Rundle really was married twice

Per WW1 service records:

Private Harry Rundle, Labour Corps who was born Penryn and married to Beatrice was 5'2 1/2" tall
Sergeant Harry Rundle RGA who was born Luton and married to Alice was 5'7" tall.
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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 20 October 19 12:30 BST (UK) »
Do you have his marriage certificate for the marriage to Alice? It may answer a few questions such as the name of his father, for example.

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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 20 October 19 12:54 BST (UK) »
Baptism....

Harry Rumble born 7 October 1876 baptised 28 October 1880 Christ church Luton Bedfordshire.
Father Joseph mother Jane.

1891 family are in Kings Norton Worcestershire.RG 12  2335/47

Joseph Rumble hd 48 hatter Bedfordshire
Jane Rumble.   Wi  50Buckinghamshire
Nellie dau 21 milliner Bedfordshire
Alfred son 18 railway fireman Luton
Harry son 14 pianoforte finisher Bedfordshire.

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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 20 October 19 12:55 BST (UK) »

I had no information on Beatrice Mallett's 4 older children at all, only the 2 youngest ones. I've never heard or seen of the name "Rumble" before, it certainly hasn't been discussed in family circles as far as I'm aware. I've no idea what the legalities of registering children with the mother's maiden name were back in the early 1900's, but was it possible for Beatrice Mallett to change the registration of her children's names if she didn't know where her husband was? Or if she'd divorced Harry Rundle because of his affair with Alice Butler, & therefore wanted her children's names changed back to her maiden name?

Just to clarify
The GRO index has the births registered in the surname of Rundle - it also indicates that the mothers maiden surname was Mallett

eg
RUNDLE, WILLIAM  FREDERICK     - MALLETT 
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in FALMOUTH  Volume 05C  Page 157
RUNDLE, BEATRICE  MARY     - MALLETT 
GRO Reference: 1895  Sept Quarter in FALMOUTH  Volume 05C  Page 154


But as I mentioned earlier they are not your family  :)
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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 20 October 19 13:15 BST (UK) »
The passage of the name Rumble to Rundle is easy enough. Both sound alike spellings change depending on how educated people were at the time.
The Harry in Cornwall is as listed previously is not yours. In 1891 Harry is in Kings Norton as in 1911.
If Alice is asking for details of Harry it could be he never went home after the war. I have proof of this with another local family. Who knows the trauma and horrors. It changed people.


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 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 20 October 19 13:27 BST (UK) »
Harry was at home until at least 1927 according to the Electoral Rolls.
Could be son Henry.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 October 19 16:37 BST (UK) »
2 possibly useful bits from his record:
no father's name but I notice a Mallett witness.
It also shows he was a time served Artilleryman pre 1914.
His address on this is the same as the Electoral Roll.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: HARRY RUNDLE, BRITISH ARMY SOLDIER, BORN 1874, LUTON, BEDFORDSHIRE, UK
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 20 October 19 16:42 BST (UK) »
Somewhere in amongst all the Army paperwork he does name his father Joseph as his next of kin, with an address in Birmingham. I think it is when he first enlisted in 1893 into the Staffordshire Regiment.

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