Author Topic: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection  (Read 1291 times)

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Kate was my paternal grandmother. Im looking for any information about herself, her parents and grandparents.
I have never found her exact birth entry, I know she died in January 1962 at St Finbars Hospital,Cork, documented death cert and newspaper obituary.
Age is stated as 81.
However this age does not correlate with her marriage to Michael Driscoll (1878-1938).(Driscoll married a Driscoll)
She was a minor when she married in Kilshanning Mallow Aug 28th 1908. So according to her marriage entry she would be born 1891/1892. She is on the census 1911 in Dromore, Dromahane Cork aged 19 with her 1 year old son Dan Driscoll born 1910.
She gave birth to a daughter Bridget in 1909, however Bridget was not on the census and no death record found for Bridget as an infant.
Her father is documented as James Driscoll (died 1919) wife Annie (Hannah present).
They are both also on the 1911 census, which states they have had 3 children and 3 are living.
I think its possible that Annie (Hannah) may have been born Ring, married a Rourke with whom she had 5 children and was left a widow. She then married James Driscoll and had 3 more children. William 1890, Catherine 1891/2 and John 1896. This is not proven, also seems to be no record of what happened to the 5 Rourke children, if indeed my hypothesis is correct..
I did find a baptism entry for July 2nd 1892 which suggests her mother may have been Johanna born Ring,& was a widow Rourke.
My father rarely spoke of his family once he left Ireland so very little first hand information is available. He once mentioned that his mother came from Watergrasshill, Ive found no evidence of that and that his mother was a McCarthy. Again no evidence that his mother was a McCarthy.
My grandfather Michael born 1878-1938  his mother was Mary McCarthy 1844 who married Daniel McCarthy they were from Rockmills, Kildorrery.
Any help much appreciated, please message for any clarifications etc. Thank you in advance.


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Re: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 October 19 23:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replying, much appreciated. I have the marriage record and Bridgets birth record the exact two that you posted links for.
The Bridget death you posted for Kanturk could well be her. My father said his sister Bridget died "young" he knew nothing else about her, as he was born years after her. Some of their childrens births were actually registered in Kanturk. Still odd that Bridget isn't on the census for 1911 she would have been around 2 years old then
So many thanks again.

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Re: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 October 19 23:17 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

Is this your family (no Kate though) in 1901?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Rathcormac/Mill_Street/1146532/

Amended - wrong family - see below
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Re: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 09:13 BST (UK) »
There is a 3 year old Bridget Driscoll living with  Bridget Driscoll aged 60,
Bridget Driscoll aged 60
John Driscoll aged 21,son
Denis Driscoll aged 5 son
William Driscoll aged 9 son
Bridget Driscoll aged 3 daughter
Lizzie Driscoll aged 4,
a little bit old at 60 to be having a 3 year old child isn't she
Dunmanway South,Cork, John is down as head of household so he may be their father
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 10:29 BST (UK) »

There is a 3 year old Bridget Driscoll living with  Bridget Driscoll aged 60,
Bridget Driscoll aged 60
John Driscoll aged 21,son
Denis Driscoll aged 5 son
William Driscoll aged 9 son
Bridget Driscoll aged 3 daughter
Lizzie Driscoll aged 4,
a little bit old at 60 to be having a 3 year old child isn't she
Dunmanway South,Cork, John is down as head of household so he may be their father


Mary Driscoll aged 60 and head of household
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Dunmanway_South/West_Green/410637/

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Re: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 13:45 BST (UK) »
the census page 2 ,form A ,Family return gives John as head click on image 2
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: KATE (Catherine) DRISCOLL. RYLANE CORK IRELAND (possible RING/ROURKE) connection
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 16:28 BST (UK) »
As you can see it saves a lot of time if you put links to what you have found otherwise we all just spent a lot of time trying to find what you already found, to see if there are any clues you may have missed.
This marriage in 1884 of Johanna Rourke/Ring to James Driscoll is I assume the marriage you believe is your Catherine's parents (I'd be inclined to agree)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10912/5986440.pdf
but without birth or baptisms for their children you can't prove it's the correct couple.
I looked for Catherine and John's birth certs with no luck, I didn't look for William yet.
You said you found a baptism 1892, was that for Catherine? Did you search the same place for the other children? Did you see the original or a transcript.
From about 1900 a note was made at time of marriage on baptisms of who the than infant was now marrying, sadly not all do but as Catherine didn't marry until 1908 a note could be on her baptism.
Where did you find that baptism?
Marriages and deaths of her siblings would also be worth searching for as they might hold clues.