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John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« on: Tuesday 22 October 19 22:28 BST (UK) »
My great grandad was in the Royal Engineers during WW1, he was one of the lucky ones who survived. I have unsurprisingly been able to find a service or pension record for him, I am assuming due to the records being destroyed in WW2.
I have trawled the medal rolls and there is one that has come up that could be him but maybe not. His name was John Girdlestone Wright and he was born in 1891 in North Walsham, Norfolk. The record I have found is for a John G Wright- Transport 2nd Corporal- Regimental Number: 23881.
There is noone alive in my family now who could confirm whether this is him or not. Is there anywhere else I could go for any further information?. I have a picture of Great Grandad which I have attached, if someone could maybe make out what rank he was, that would be a great help. I have noticed he has three chevrons on his arm but I am not sure what that represents. Thanks ever so much for any help you can give me. i know the service record is a lost cause but I thought if I could find him in the medal rolls and find a battalion, I may be able to find war diaries. Thanks again
BARGAS  Berkshire & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUS Berkshire  & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUSS | Berkshire & Oxfordshire
BOWMAN England | Wiltshire
BULLOCK England | Norfolk | Banningham
BURGESS England | Norfolk | Reedham
DOUGHTY England | Norfolk | North Walsham
WRIGHT (England | Norfolk | North Walsham
HUDSON (England | Norfolk | Banningham/Swanton
Abbott/Knapton/Edingthorpe)
OLLEY England | Norfolk | Skeyton and Banningham 
PAGE England | Cambridge | Edgefield, Norfolk

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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 09:40 BST (UK) »
There are in fact four medal records for men called John G Wright in the Royal Engineers.  Service records have not survived for any of them.

However, he is wearing three stripes above which half of what may be a crown can be seen.  There is a gap between the crown and the stripes which is where, with a Royal Engineer, a grenade badge is worn , it is off the picture.  He is wearing medal ribbons.  All this suggests a post war serving soldier with the rank of Staff Sergeant.

There is a record of a JG Wright with a birth date of 2 May 1893 with a service number in the Royal Engineer block of service numbers in the list of pre 1901 date of birth men still held by MOD.

There is a very good chance that this is your man but the birth date doesn't fit - is yours definitely 1891?  His record would include his Great War record.  If the date fits, then you would be able to apply for his record:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

Otherwise, without other evidence, any one of the four could be your man.

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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 18:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks ever so much for that information. I didnít have a clue what rank he was so that was very helpful 🙂.

His date of birth is definitely 20th November 1891 as I have his birth certificate.

Thanks again for looking 🙂

BARGAS  Berkshire & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUS Berkshire  & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUSS | Berkshire & Oxfordshire
BOWMAN England | Wiltshire
BULLOCK England | Norfolk | Banningham
BURGESS England | Norfolk | Reedham
DOUGHTY England | Norfolk | North Walsham
WRIGHT (England | Norfolk | North Walsham
HUDSON (England | Norfolk | Banningham/Swanton
Abbott/Knapton/Edingthorpe)
OLLEY England | Norfolk | Skeyton and Banningham 
PAGE England | Cambridge | Edgefield, Norfolk


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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 19:15 BST (UK) »
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His date of birth is definitely 20th December 1891

Are you sure? His baptism record and death registration state his birth date as 20 November 1891.
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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 19:30 BST (UK) »
Neither date hits the jackpot on the Asset Listings.

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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 19:53 BST (UK) »
There was also a Royal Engineers Transport Sergeant John G Wright 602071.

He qualified for the 1914-15 Star with 1st Bridging Train RE (at that time a II Corporal, number 20985) having embarked for France on 18 August 1914.
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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 October 19 20:08 BST (UK) »
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His date of birth is definitely 20th December 1891

Are you sure? His baptism record and death registration state his birth date as 20 November 1891.

Whoops my mistake, read the birth certificate wrong, should have had my glasses on.. definitely November. i have adjusted my previous post! 😀
BARGAS  Berkshire & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUS Berkshire  & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUSS | Berkshire & Oxfordshire
BOWMAN England | Wiltshire
BULLOCK England | Norfolk | Banningham
BURGESS England | Norfolk | Reedham
DOUGHTY England | Norfolk | North Walsham
WRIGHT (England | Norfolk | North Walsham
HUDSON (England | Norfolk | Banningham/Swanton
Abbott/Knapton/Edingthorpe)
OLLEY England | Norfolk | Skeyton and Banningham 
PAGE England | Cambridge | Edgefield, Norfolk

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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 12:55 BST (UK) »
My Great Grandfather John Girdlestone Wright served as a Sergeant with the Royal Engineers in WW1. Unfortunately like so many, his WW1 record was destroyed. I have discovered today through birth certificates for his children that he still served with the Engineers in the 1920ís until at least 1926. Would it be worth contacting the MOD to see if they have records for him for that time? I know I would have to pay but if there was a strong chance they would have something I would do it. I would dearly love to know more about his military experiences.

Many thanks 🙂
BARGAS  Berkshire & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUS Berkshire  & Oxfordshire |variant of Barguss
BARGUSS | Berkshire & Oxfordshire
BOWMAN England | Wiltshire
BULLOCK England | Norfolk | Banningham
BURGESS England | Norfolk | Reedham
DOUGHTY England | Norfolk | North Walsham
WRIGHT (England | Norfolk | North Walsham
HUDSON (England | Norfolk | Banningham/Swanton
Abbott/Knapton/Edingthorpe)
OLLEY England | Norfolk | Skeyton and Banningham 
PAGE England | Cambridge | Edgefield, Norfolk

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Re: John Girdlestone Wright Service Record
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 August 20 13:56 BST (UK) »
Was his date of birth 2 May 1893?  There is a record of a JG Wright held by MOD with a RE number .

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