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Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« on: Thursday 31 October 19 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello. I'm trying to work out where Alice came from and what she did in her early life. She was my Dad's Grandma, when he was a boy she was a widow and ran a pub in Rotherham.
I think I have found her living with her aunt Hannah Webster on the 1871 census in Worksop, age 5, Hannah is a widow.
On the 1861 census Hannah is a widow, she has a boarder called John Woodward who I am thinking is Hannah's Father.
On the 1841 census John is with wife and 7 children, daughter Hannah is 10, and a son Samuel is 8 - I think he is Alice's dad.
On 1861 census Samuel is with wife and 2 infants.
On 1871 census Samuel is a widow and is a farm servant on a farm called Ratcliffe Grange. So I am guessing that he has gone into service and has put the kids with family, Alice being one of them.
On 1891 census Samuel is in Whiston near Rotherham with second wife Sarah - there was a Sarah Grainger working at the same farm in 1871, and her age fits. His son William from first wife is living with them.
On 1891 census Alice is a servant at a Vicarage in Barnenbt le Wold.
In 1897 Alice gives birth to my Grandma Ethel Mary Redhead in Rotherham.
On 1901 census Alice is in Rotherham with husband James and three chidren.
In 1910 Alice's husband James dies.
Could anybody help to confirm if I've got all this right, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
I can't find Alice between 1871 and 1891, and I can't find out what happened to her mother, could anybody help with that too.
Thanks in advance.
Dave

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 October 19 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Is this her birth reg (1865 rather than 1866)?

Alice Woodward, motherís maiden name Carter, Sep qtr 1865 Worksop 7b 21.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 October 19 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Woodward and Mary Carter on the same page of marriages, Mar qtr 1858 Worksop 7b 59.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 October 19 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Possible death then of Mary Woodward aged 31, Dec qtr 1867 Worksop - have you looked at that one?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 October 19 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks avm. Yes that could be right, my date of 1866 was just a guess from her age on the 1871 census.

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 October 19 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again avm. I'll have a look at Mary Carter, sounds interesting.

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 October 19 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Baptism Worksop, St Mary (the Priory)
17 Dec 1871 Alice dau of Samuel & Mary Woodward father a labourer
17 Dec 1871 John son of-----ditto

There are 4 baptisms for children of Samuel and Mary at Worksop  and 4 for children baptised in East Retford.
There are 3 baptisms for children of Samuel and Sarah at Worksop.

Marriages Worksop
8 Mar 1858 Samuel Woodward & Mary Carter
24 Sep 1871 Samuel Woodward & Sarah Granger
27 Jun 1893 Samuel Woodward & Agnes Story

Burial Worksop
20 Dec 1867 Mary Woodward aged 31.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 October 19 11:15 GMT (UK) »
7 Baptisms at Worksop, parents John & Hannah (Ann) Woodward abode Sparken Hill father a labourer/ farm servant
18 Aug 1830 Hannah
17 Feb 1833 Samuel
3 Jan 1821 Mary
17 Dec 1826 Ann
24 Jun 1828 William
10 May 1835 Frances
14 Apr 1838 Luke---- burial 8 Nov 1872 aged 35

Have you checked here? https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/5dbac29633045babde87a79e?locale=en

Marriage Worksop
25 Jan 1819 John Woodward & Hannah Kelk
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Alice Woodward born Worksop 1866
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 October 19 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Have you been buying (or finding online if available) the birth, marriage and death certificates for your family, so that you can logically work backwards?  Or are you relying on censuses?

e.g.
'On 1891 census Samuel is in Whiston near Rotherham with second wife Sarah - there was a Sarah Grainger working at the same farm in 1871, and her age fits.'
Sorry, even if true, it is just speculation until a marriage is found. (which larkspur probably did.)