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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 November 19 08:34 GMT (UK) »
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GRIFFITHS, SARAH ANN RICH (who was the mother of john william griffiths born 1877?)
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 622
 cannot find her in death or census
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Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 November 19 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Possible death
1880 Sarah Annie Griffiths 2 yrs Wolverhampton 6b pg 338

There is a Griffiths/Rich Family at 1881 2803/27/15
Children John and Elizabeth but no Sarah Ann.
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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 November 19 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Marriage 1874
Henry Griffiths and Martha Rich are on the same page.

Martha Griffiths in 1881 above with Sarah Higgins, mother and brother John Rich.
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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 November 19 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Who is John William Griffiths?
Is he the one who was born in 1877?
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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 01 November 19 10:53 GMT (UK) »
yes but not confirmed year, from marr certif and army, possibly on 1881 mother Rich father john harry/henry, no other census or death
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Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 01 November 19 11:11 GMT (UK) »
possiible sister Elizabeth to john william
the marriage certificate and studied it there is a possibility of the Fathers name as it is handwritten could be Henry not Harry, Harry is often used as a nickname for Henry

Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 11 Oct 1874.
Henry GRIFFITHS. 24. Bachelor Puddler. Chapel Street.
died age 37. 1885 in WOLVERHAMPTON
Martha RICH. 21. Spinster. Chapel Street.
Witness Richard TENNANT, and Betsy GRIFFITHS.
Notes Banns; Grooms father deceased; Brides father deceased;
Betsy Poss Sister Elizabeth Griffiths born 1879
Recorded by John E GLADSTONE.
Credit Barb Jones.

Age is slightly out compaired to 1911 census
GRIFFITHS, JOHN mother RICH.
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 562.
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 01 November 19 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Ref to Sarah Ann look up ADDRESS MOSELY VILLAGE
very interesting
GRIFFITHS Elizabeth dau.of Henry & Martha 22 Apr 1879 Moseley Village Pudler R.H.Snape Heath Town
indicates john as 4 years older 1875
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 01 November 19 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Who`s daughter was Sarah Ann,(sister to John William Griffiths)?
1881
Moseley V High Street, Wednesfield, Wolverhampton,
Staffordshire, England
Mary Jones Head Widow Female 55 1826 No Occupation Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Davis Son In Law Married Male 30 1851 Cooper Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Rachel Jones Daughter Single Female 21 1860 ? Painter (Whitesmith) Staffordshire, England
Catherine Jones Daughter Single Female 18 1863 None Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Rosehannah Jones Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Tacker Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Enoch Jones Son Single Male 12 1869 None Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Ann Griffiths Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Baby **


BUT:  1881 - RG11/2812 folio 122 page 6 - image on Ancestry and FindMyPast

Last entry in this household (first entry on page 7) and next entry to Enoch is

Betsy Davis - 30 = William's wife

There is no entry for Sarah Ann Griffiths - although Family Search have her listed in place of Betsy Davis  :-\

Amended:  Oops, sorry Annette - I now see you have already pointed this out in reply #4  :-[
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Re: sarah ann ?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 01 November 19 12:01 GMT (UK) »
It was this entry on the IGI i was interested in Thanks

GRIFFITHS, SARAH ANN RICH (who was the mother of john william griffiths born 1877?)
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 622
 cannot find her in death or census
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Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING