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Offline Aussie33

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Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« on: Saturday 02 November 19 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Could someone please lookup the baptism of Ann SISMAN (or FLANDERS) born c 1824 in Houghton area. She was the daughter of James FLANDERS. Trying to get further confirmation that her mother was Elizabeth SISMAN.

Ann would have been born when Elizabeth was only about 16 years old so she may been baptised as SISMAN with mother as Elizabeth ,a single woman.  James FLANDERS & Elizabeth SISMAN married later in 1840. Before I send off for their marriage certificate,(which will probably just say they were both of Full age & not their actual ages-so no real help),I thought Id ask on here if anyone can find her baptism record.

In the 1851 census, Elizabeth FLANDERS is with her husband James & her father George SISMAN. Ann FLANDERS married in 1842 –no need for more info.

Thanks for your help
Kerri
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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 November 19 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Details of the James Flanders/Elizabeth Sisman marriage are on FreeREG. Both are "of full age".

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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 November 19 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Ok thanks. Looks like I need to keep trying to find Ann's baptism
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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 November 19 13:09 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism in Conington 4 Apr 1819 for an Ann Sisman, parents George & Mary Sisman.

Where do you have your Ann on census

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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 November 19 13:18 GMT (UK) »
No, that Ann married Thomas DING in 1837. She was Elizabeth's sister.
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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 November 19 13:24 GMT (UK) »

Where do you have your Ann on census

Who did she marry
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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 November 19 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Marriage to Thomas Livett, 3 April 1842, Houghton, on FreeReg.
Ann Flanders age 20, father James Flanders, Labourer.

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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 November 19 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Ann FLANDERS married Thomas LIVETT in 1842.
Im searching through the SISMAN lineage. Another person searching who is coming up the line is descended from Ann LIVETT,nee FLANDERS.
We DNA match and this looks to be our common linkage.
Getting late here.Will check in the morning thanks
Docking,Ettridge/Etheridge, Feltus (Ireland),Fuge,
Sisman/Sissman (Sawtry,Hunt,Eng),Stevens (Lochiel/Crystal Brook,SA) ,
Young (Lopen,Somerset), Maguire(Cavan,Ireland),Betts/Bates (Teston,Kent to Western Australia,SA & Vic), Berridge (Hun,Eng)

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Re: Houghton area baptism lookup please?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 November 19 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Think you have the wrong James Flanders!

A James Flanders and wife Mary had - at least - the following children:

Phoebe bp.18/7/1819 Houghton/Holywell-cum-Needingworth (same baptism shown 2 places?)
Ann bp.29/9/1822 Abbots-Ripton, Hunts.
Charlotte bp.10/7/1831 Houghton
Margaret bp.15/6/1834 Houghton
William bp.23/7/1837 Houghton

So, although baptised elsewhere Ann's family were living in Houghton and no doubt she herself believed she was born there too.

In 1841 in Houghton there is no James but Mary there with daus. Pheby, Charlotte and son William.  In 1851 Mary clearly shown as a widow.

Cannot find a likely burial entry for James Flanders nor a marriage to a Mary.  However, census shows Mary bc.1792 Witton, Hunts. and there is a baptism of a James Flanders 14/7/1793 Abbots-Ripton (together with a Joseph) sons of Daniel and Ann.   Since mother is Ann perhaps this is why his own daughter Ann was baptised in his own parish rather than Houghton.

Mary Flanders was buried Houghton 7/2/1871.  Age a bit off but wonder in the absence of a burial for James Flanders in Huntingdonshire if he is the one convicted of sheep stealing on 2/1/1837 Huntingdonshsire (aged 40?) and sentenced to transportation for life arriving in Australia later that year.

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