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Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« on: Monday 04 November 19 12:30 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if any forum member could help.
Constance Irene Lambeth married Derek M Barker. The marriage was registered in Braintree in Q2 1945. Constance died aged 25 on 9 Feb 1946, in Notley Rd, Braintree, after a short illness.
Can anyone track down her date and place of birth. I can't find it on free BMD, but it should be 1920/1.   Also anything about her parents.
Derek was the son of a butcher, Bertie Maltby Barker from Lavenham, Suffolk. I am wondering if he had the middle name Maltby as well, possibly a family surname from an ancestor who I have not yet tracked down?
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 November 19 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Probably best to get a copy of the Marriage Certificate?

That will have Constance's father's name.
And also her marital status and any former names.

I am thinking that she may have married before, and her husband died during the war?
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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 November 19 12:51 GMT (UK) »
The marriage details, if they help...

Marriage:
married: 23 Jun 1945; St Michael the Archangel, Braintree; lic
groom: Derek Maltby Barker; 25; bach; RAF; "Craigmore", Bromfield Road, Chelmsford
bride: Constance Irene Lambeth; 25; spin; bank clerk; 32 Notley Road, Braintree
grooms father: Bertie Maltby Barker (dec); farmer & butcher
brides father: George Lambeth; fishmonger
witnesses: George Lambeth, B I? Barker
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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 November 19 12:55 GMT (UK) »
In 1939 she was single and living in Stoke on Trent, her birth date the 24 March 1920 and she was a bank clerk machinist.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 November 19 13:06 GMT (UK) »
A few newspaper references...

Chelmsford Chronicle
29 Jun 1945
Marriages
Barker-Lambeth - On June 23, at St Michael's Church, Braintree, Cpl. Derek Maltby Barker, RAF, of Broomfield Road, Chelmsford, to Constance Irene Lambeth, of Notley Road, Braintree.

Chelmsford Chronicle
15 Feb 1946
Deaths
Barker - On the 9th February, at 32 Notley Road, Braintree, Constance Irene Barker (nee Lambeth), the loved wife of Derek Maltby Barker, "Craigmore", Broomfield Road, Chelmsford, peacefully passed over after a short illness, aged 25

Chelmsford Chronicle
14 Feb 1947
In Memoriam
Barker, Constance Irene. In ever-loving memory of Connie, who died Feb. 9th, 1946. Always in the thoughts of all at 113 Bleakhouse Road, Birmingham, and 32 Notley Road, Braintree.
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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 November 19 13:53 GMT (UK) »
In 1939 she was single and living in Stoke on Trent, her birth date the 24 March 1920 and she was a bank clerk machinist.

Indexed as Lambert - it may be worth investigating other Lamberts on the page in case related.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 November 19 14:08 GMT (UK) »
This couple may be relevant in some way.

Alexander McArthur born 3 November 1900 - father George Jamieson McArthur.
Maud(e) Elizabeth Lee born 18 July 1900 - father James Lee.

Married at St Michael's, Braintree, 19 Sep 1925. They seem to have lived at 113 Bleakhouse Rd, Oldbury/Birmingham later on pre-war - see reference to that address in the memorial notice.

Two McArthur/Lee births (1929 Epsom and 1934 Smethwick) may or may not belong.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 November 19 14:25 GMT (UK) »
This couple may be relevant in some way.

Alexander McArthur born 3 November 1900 - father George Jamieson McArthur.
Maud(e) Elizabeth Lee born 18 July 1900 - father James Lee.

Married at St Michael's, Braintree, 19 Sep 1925. They seem to have lived at 113 Bleakhouse Rd, Oldbury/Birmingham later on - see reference to that address in the memorial notice.

Two McArthur/Lee births (1929 Epsom and 1934 Smethwick) may or may not belong.

There's also a pre-war link to 32 Notley Rd, Braintree as the residence of Maud Lee's widowed mother Ellen.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Constance Lambeth and Derek Barker
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 November 19 14:36 GMT (UK) »
So you may want to look at whether Constance was a daughter of any of the following:

Ellen Lee (nee Hart) - b Braintree 8 Jan 1869 and marr fishmonger James Lee 1893 Bethnal Green. Widowed before 1911. Likely to be too old to have had Constance in 1920. Still lived at 32 Notley Rd, Braintree on her death in 1951.

or her daughters:

Lily Emma Lee b 22 Mar 1895 Bethnal Green - died unmarried, 14 Jun 1984 Halstead.
Gertrude Ethel Lee b 2 Dec 1896 Bethnal Green - died unmarried, Jun qtr 1979 Braintree.
Maud Elizabeth Lee b 18 Nov 1900 Bethnal Green
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)