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Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« on: Thursday 07 November 19 00:14 GMT (UK) »
How would you interpret Mary's surname? This is from a London clandestine marriage in 1749.

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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 November 19 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Looks like possibly cliford (Clifford) or clifane (Clephane)?

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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 November 19 04:29 GMT (UK) »
The best I can do with the surname is to break down the possible letters as follows:

c - l - i - f/t - a/o - n/w

The last word is Spr = Spinster (but I'm sure you already knew that).

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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 November 19 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Clissam
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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 November 19 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Probably Cliford following Mary.

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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 November 19 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all to the input, really struggling with this one. I think we can definitely say the name starts Cli... but after that it is anyone's guess.

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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 November 19 23:15 GMT (UK) »
The more I look at it, I think Clifane although the recent spelling I've come across is Clephane?

It's definitely an 'n' as it matches most of the others which stop short leaving it looking like an 'r'.


Do you have any other text for comparison?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Bride's surname, 1749 London clandestine marriage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 November 19 06:46 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry has them recorded as Mary Ditem & Mary Clifen however I personally would sway towards Clifton as the surname with the f & t joined.

What is interesting is where they married.  If you don't have much info on it this is an interesting article:  https://www.marriagerecords.me.uk/fleet-prison/