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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 17 November 19 15:41 GMT (UK) »
John popped up in 1902 marrying Ruth gerard, thorpe derbyshire. Lived tgere til they died 1936ish.
Are you certain about year of birth for John and his sister? Flexibility regarding age was common. Some chose a convenient age. 
What was occupation of John's father and did it say if he was deceased on marriage certificate?
Did John put Mayo for place of birth on 1911 census?
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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 17 November 19 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Widening age range there are these birth registrations with Thomas as father;
1881 Claremorris
1874 Tobercurry/Tubbercurry, abode Achonry, County Sligo near boundary with Mayo.
1873 & 1875 Sligo (in case the family moved early in John's childhood)
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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 17 November 19 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Thanks for these. Ive only just ordered the marr cert to see what else is on it.
Co mayo is listed on the cert transcript along with 'Thomas'. So hopefully the transcript is accurate.
It'll be a few dAys til i cAn confirm then ill post again

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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 17 November 19 22:14 GMT (UK) »


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Ordered what Cert?  The details are what is on Reg Cert.







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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 November 19 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Give a man a record and you feed him for a day.
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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 November 19 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Re. my reply #10. Those are only suggestions.
Did you calculate John's and Mary's birth years from marriage and death certificates and census? Age on marriage and death certificates, census, military records &c. around that time should be regarded as approximate. Ages of some of my Irish relatives were "approximate" to a decade.
What is the exact wording on the transcript of John's marriage certificate? What is the source of the certificate?
Have you seen Mary's death certificate and obituaries or death notices in newspapers for Mary and John? Obits may have information about origin, parents, siblings.
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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 November 19 13:34 GMT (UK) »
John popped up in 1902 marrying Ruth gerard, thorpe derbyshire. Lived tgere til they died 1936ish.

Was John dead before 1939 ?
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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Maiden Stone: John died, 18mo after Ruth and his daughter, in 1937.

Wherever he states birthplace its consistently county mayo, ireland.

Mary age/dob is from USA census returns and again is consistent. She states on us census returns immigration 1898. Not seen any docs, just transcriptions so far.

I was reading last night that county boundaries in Ireland changed in 1898, so if they left Ireland before that what they called Mayo might have changed.

I'm not in same place as my files for a little while now. John was a farmhand from 1902 to 1936. His dob is calculated from 1911 census and marr cert transcript agrees.

I'm hoping gro marr cert copy may show res, fathers occupation and witnesses.

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Re: Calleghans john and mary of thomas
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 21:11 GMT (UK) »
The death certs for Philadelphia are on Ancestry up to 1967 normally parents names included, when did your Mary die, was she married cant see a passenger list, have you found Naturalization Details.