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A 1621 will from Sussex
« on: Thursday 21 November 19 11:04 GMT (UK) »
I have transcribed most of a 1621 will drawn up in Sussex but there are two words in this snippet that elude me completely. There are other section (identified in red) that I am not too sure about. I would be grateful for any help?

This is my take:

8.   God my Creator hoping ?edly?  through the and by meritts of Christ
9.   Jefus my Saviour and Redeemer to have all my  ?fns? washed away
10.   in his ?od? and through that fatiffaction Hee hath ?ught? for mee
11.   to bee made partaker of everlafting life. And my Body I comitt to
12.   the earth whereof it was made in the full and affured hope of the
13.   refurrection at the laft day when God by his Almighty power by
14.   which he is able to subdue all things to himfelf will riafe it by, not as
15.   now A weake and Corruptible Body, But A glorious one, like unto the
16.   Body of his Fonne Christ. Then ?cerning that portion of mee rthly?
17.   Goods which God of his goodnes hath given mee I will and bequeath the
18.   following.  ffirftly I give towards the ?cting or  ting? the Ten
19.   Comanndements in the Church of the parrifh of Alfriston   ?????     I
20.   now  ?ell?  Twenty shillings To Bee paid within Six monthes after my
21.   Decease. Item I give to the poor of the parrifh of Alfriston Before
22.   mentioned the  ?like?  four of twenty shillings to bee paid likewife within
23.   Six monthes after my Deceafe and to bee diftributed by the wifdom
24.   and Difcreson of the ?Mimfter?  and the Overfeer for the poore for
25.   the Tyme Being. Also I give unto Rebecca Pemberton my ????????

Clark, Clarke, Batchelor, Diamond, Ruddick,
Yorkshire: Oaks, Denton, Sykes

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 November 19 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Here are some other lines from page 2 of the will that are problematic:

3.   nominated to be myne Executor. Item I give unto the Said Rebecca
4.   Pemberton  ????      ?????  all the  ?????  and  ?????  in the  ???????      ??
5.   Chest ?? remayning in the house of my Cozen Richard Knight     ???  in
6.   the parrifh of ?den? in the County of Kent, the  ????      ?????  and
7.   ?????  and ?peweter     th?   to be delivered unto the Said Rebecca
8.   within two years after my Deceafe, if she fo long live, And if she



22.   Silver spoons, one fether bedd and Bolster A Blankett and  ???????
23.   to bee Delivered unto him when hee shall accomplifh the age of eighteen
24.   years. Also I give unto Edward Payne Sonne of my daughter Ffrances
25.   Deceased the like fome of Ten pounds of lawfull englifh money
26.   to bee paid unto him when hee shall accomplifh the age of one and
27.   Twenty years. More I give unto the Said Edward Payne one
28.   fether Bedd and Bolfter, A Blankett, A   ??????  A paire



31.   Colvill Before named ffive pounds of lawfull englifh money to
32.   bee paid unto him within one yeare after my Deceafe. (this I give
33.   him over and above the former legacy of ffive pounds,  ?if  that fall?
34.   unto him) The reft of my goods Chattells and Creditts unbequeathed
35.   (my Debts and Legacies paid and ?pformed?, and my funerall expenfes
36.   Difcharged) I give and bequeath unto my Sonne William Giles
37.   Whome I doe make The Executor of this my laft will, and so
38.   Require him by that Bond of Duty by which A Childe is Bound unto
39.   His parent that hee bee Carefull and faithfull in the Due pformance



40.   of this my will.  ????  But if my Sonne William Giles Shall refufe to
41.   Take the Executorshipp of this my will upon him or Shall neglect to
42.   ?probeit?  in due mannor and forme of ?laws above? the ????? of three


Clark, Clarke, Batchelor, Diamond, Ruddick,
Yorkshire: Oaks, Denton, Sykes

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 November 19 11:49 GMT (UK) »
And here are the issues with page 3:

1.   monethes, then my will is that my Daughter Margaret Shall have the
2.   Refidue of my goods Chattells and Credits unbequeathed (my Debts
3.   and Legacies paid and pformed and my funeral expenses Difcharged
4.   and to bee my Sole Executor. And my will and Defire is and I Doe  ?????
5.   pray my loving and good friends Thomas Barton the  ?????  of  ?????
6.   in the County of Kent  ????  my Sonne in law ????, and Richard Staple of
7.   Wilmington in the County of Sussex yeoman to bee my Overfeers ?& to?
8.   each of  ???????  for theire paines    ?????   I Doe give ffive shillings
9.   And Doe further will that theire    ????  able  ????  and Charges Bee
10.   Duely   ?????   to  ?????  of them By myne     ??????      ??????   
11.   of theire  ?Trabell?  for any needfull  ?????    Concerning the Execution



20.   Year first above written. Margaret Giles her mark, In the presence
21.   Of Samuell Clark, John Lyons, Edward Lyons. Thefe words ?(erecti….
22.   or new writing? the Ten Comanndements ?in which are enterlined in?
23.   the eleventh and Twelfeth lynes of this will were written by the
24.   appointment of this Testator in the prefence of Samuell Clark

Clark, Clarke, Batchelor, Diamond, Ruddick,
Yorkshire: Oaks, Denton, Sykes

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 November 19 11:51 GMT (UK) »
First clip:

8    assuredly
9    synnes
10   ...Bloud, and through that satisfaction w(hi)ch hee hath wrought for mee...
16   ...his sonne Christ Then Concerning that Portion of worldly...
18   towards the erecting or new writing the...
19   ...where I
20   now dwell...
22   ...like som(m)e of...
24   ...the Minister and the Oversee(r)s for...
25   ...my kinswoman...



The long-s should be transcribed as s rather than as f.


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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 November 19 11:57 GMT (UK) »
And of course the probate bit where I can offer very little!

1.   Probatum Coram Mag(ist)ro Johanne Nutt Presbroius  ???ibus magio
2.   Surrogato  ???      Tertio die July Anno Dni millesimo Septendi Simo
3.   vicesimo Secundo Juramento William Giles fily  ???      offfini  ???
4.   ???        ???        ???    Executorix ex Sui Domi??    fuit Administracio
5.   Bonorum suregate  benee  ffidele administrando core ad  ???    iurate

Clark, Clarke, Batchelor, Diamond, Ruddick,
Yorkshire: Oaks, Denton, Sykes

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 November 19 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Page 2 Snippet A:

...Pemberton A Chest and all the lynnen and pewter in the same, w(hi)ch

Chest is remayning in the house of my Cozen Richard Knight at or in

the parrishe of Cowden in the Countye of Kent, the said Chest and

lynnen and peweter therein to bee delivered unto...



Page 2 Snippet B:

22 Coverlett
28 Coverlett


There's a Snippet missing here - it should cover lines 31 - 39.

Line 42:    ...prove it in due manner and forme of lawe above the space of three...

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 November 19 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Horseley, Good to see you again. Sorry about the missing snippet and here it is - page 2 lines 31 to 39
Clark, Clarke, Batchelor, Diamond, Ruddick,
Yorkshire: Oaks, Denton, Sykes

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 November 19 13:14 GMT (UK) »
33   ...if that fall...
35   p(er)formed
37   ...sole Executor...
39   p(er)formance



Re 35 and 39, see the section on "special" p here:

https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/mediawiki/media/images_pedia_folgerpedia_mw/2/21/Alphabet_Abbreviations.pdf

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Re: A 1621 will from Sussex
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 November 19 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Here is the longish section at the start of page 3 but that is probably all from me for tonight.

4    ...my sole Executrix....I doe hartily...  [The last three letters of this word are speculative.]
5    ...Barton the elder of Hadlow...
6    ...Kent gent(leman) my sonne in lawe, and Richard...
7    ...be my Oversee(r)s too...
  [Last word is speculative.]
8    ...each of whome for theire paines herein I doe give ffive shillinges...
9    ...theire reasonable Costes and Charges bee
10   duely answered to either of them by myne Executor* w(i)th recompence
11   of their Travell for any needfull busines...


* sic