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Search re- 1861 /1851 Censuses
« on: Thursday 21 November 19 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm not sure on for what I am asking can actually be achieved.
My ancestor on the 1861 Census has supposedly remarried and acquired three Step-Children.
He we believe was a Widower sometime before the 1861 Census was taken.
We have not found a Marriage with / of his Partner as on the 1861 Census.
I would like information of how to search the address of the 1861, back on the 1851 Census, if it's possible?.The address to be searched 1, Chelmsford Terrace, Paddington.

The 1861 Census ref  is R.G. 9. /  6 -- Page No. 30.
Paddington Parish, Municipal Ward 2, Borough of Marylebone, Ecclesiastical District is St. Saviours. The christian name's and age's of the people that I am interested in are ELIZABETH snr, ELIZABETH jnr,RICHARD and ELLEN as these are the Stepchildren to my Ancestor as the 1861 Census. My Ancestor, the head of household is JAMES WENTZELL age 44 as to the 1861 Census.
 Any help on the above much appreciated.
Regards JUST J.
Maycock LAMBETH 1700-1960's
Burcham NORFOLK ??/LAMBETH 1700 - 1960's
Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH
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Re: Search re- 1861 /1851 Censuses
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 November 19 13:32 GMT (UK) »
WENTZELL, ANDREW       mmn ROBERTS 
1843  Dec Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 250

WENTZELL, MARIA       mmn ROBERTS 
1848  March Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 26  Page 361
 
WENTZELL, LOUIS       mmn ROBERTS 
1850  June Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 255

WENTZELL, ARTHUR       ROBERTS 
1852  Sept Quarter in ST LUKE CHELSEA  Volume 01A  Page 113
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Re: Search re- 1861 /1851 Censuses
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 November 19 13:39 GMT (UK) »
1851 they are in Vauxhall
HO107 / Piece 1573 f371 p59
Louis is Lewis

James wife Maria death
WENTZELL, MARIA       age 39 
March Quarter 1855 - ST LUKE CHELSEA  Volume 01A  Page 109
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Re: Search re- 1861 /1851 Censuses
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 November 19 13:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi
They seem to be on the 1851 census at Camberwell
Richard Thornton 27 omnibus conductor Lambeth
Elizabeth 26 Essex Dageston?   
Richard 4 scholar London   (1861 census  15,14 and 12 years old)
Elizabeth 3 Brixton
Ellen 2 St Pancras

It's looks like the couple married at St James Westminster 27 Mar 1846 Richard Thornton and Elizabeth Guiven .
She latter remarried as Elizabeth Mary Wentzell 24.8.1865 at Croyden to Thomas Whitchuch.
her father given as Daniel Guiver coachman

Maria Wentzell buried 12.2.1855 at Kensington and Chelsea.It's on deceased online but I don't have a sub
Possible for Richard Thornton age 27 at Clapham 27.8.1852 but it is a very common name.

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Re: Search re- 1861 /1851 Censuses
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 November 19 14:04 GMT (UK) »
GRO Births

Richard Thornton Jun 1846 St Geo Hanover Sq. 01 39 mmn Guiver
Elizabeth Thornton Dec 1847 Lambeth 04 221 mmn Guiver
Ellen Thornton Dec 1848 St Panceas 01 353 mmn Guiver

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Re: Search re- 1861 /1851 Censuses
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 November 19 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Many, Many thanks to all,

Firstly for looking at my request.Such a quick response from you.
Can anyone help on the Marriage of JAMES WENTZELL & ELIZABETH THORNTON ( GUIVER ) at all?. JAMES dies in 1863 in Penge, Croyden, Surrey. I have the suspicion that the WENTZELL name may have been mis-transcripted. Which I have had quite a lot of in my researching. Thank you all again for your help. It's very much appreciated.Regards Just J
Maycock LAMBETH 1700-1960's
Burcham NORFOLK ??/LAMBETH 1700 - 1960's
Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH
Roberts GLAMORGAN,WALES