Agnes Garvin; b:1898;

[sng165]

I have the marriage cert of Agnes Garvin (aged 18) from Livesey (Blackburn, Lancs area) to Lawrence Fish 22 Feb 1915.  (I already have most information on Lawrence Fish). It’s Agnes I’m struggling with.

It shows her father as Thomas Garvin (Iron Moulder*) Deceased.

I wondered if I had selected the correct Thomas Garvin

Thomas Garvin 1859-1912 (born in Armagh, lived & died in Wigan)

He was a widower when he Married widow Jane Beattie nee Carson in 1889 (from USA)

Jane had 2 children Martha & Robert Samuel Beattie.

Thomas & Jane then had Elizabeth & Mary (per 1891 & 1911 census in Wigan)
Thomas's job is shown as Blast Furnace Labourer - ties in with Iron Moulder on Marriage Cert*

The 1901 census had Elizabeth & Mary (Gars?!) aka Garvin living with Martha & Robert Samuel Beattie in Wigan with a family called Wood (no sign of Jane or Thomas?)

The only Agnes Garvin, although age (b1902) & area (Warrington) are very slightly amiss, appears on the 1911 census at Poulton with Fearnhead Workhouse/Industrial School (later Padgate Cottage Homes).

My theory is that something happened to her/their parents – early 1900’s – when all/most kids went to live with the Wood’s; but do I have the correct Thomas Garvin & why was Agnes separated from the rest? & why did she not return to her parents on the 1911 census.

Thomas Garvin then died in 1912

[rosie99]

Have you seen this baptism from Lancashireopc

4 Apr 1896 St Mary and St John the Baptist (Pleasington Priory), Pleasington, Lancashire
Agnes Garvin - filia Catharina Garvin
Born 4 Mar 1896
Godparents John Joseph Gurney, prox. Georgius Margerison; Anna McCort

[lancsann]

beat me to it Rosie - new PC and had been logged out of Rootschat

Not unusual for a deceased father to be invented for a marriage certificate

[sng165]

Thanks Rosie.
Are you saying Catherine Garvin was a single mum? and he was invented for the marriage certificate?
All these other people I've traced and attached are probably unrelated!

[rosie99]

Yes Agnes appears to be illegitimate. 

I suspect Catherine could be living in Blackburn in 1891 age 29 - RG12/3408 f24 p43
. Now eliminated

[sng165]

I will restart this tomorrow
Thank you very much
Be back in touch if I grind to another halt
Much appreciated ladies 😍

[rosie99]

Pure speculation but I wonder if this is her birth registration as I can't see one as Garvin

CATTERALL, AGNES       Mothers maiden surname GARVIN 
1896  June Quarter in BLACKBURN  Volume 08E  Page 496
 

[rosie99]

1901 Agnes Catterall is in Livesey with her mother Catherine
RG13/3928 f49 p21

Catherine Catterall 44 bn Blackburn
Christopher 16 bn Blackburn
Agnes 5 bn Livesey

Same place in 1911.

Certainly worth investigation

[Pennines]

Rosie -- I suspect you may be correct with that birth registration.

On Lancs BMD there is also an Agnes Catterall - mother's maiden name Garvin in 1896. The sub registration district is Witton -- which may have covered the Livesey area at that time -- they are adjacent areas of Blackburn.